How do you know that it will kill 100,000 Americans? Because someone putting numbers into a computer model say so? It may but it may not. It might kill more. Even Fauci has said it MAY kill 100,000-200,000. Not that it will. Nobody knows. Not even the “experts”

 

The medical answer would probably be until an effective vaccine is found and administered to all. But that's not a realistic answer.

 

Yes.

Your last statement is dangerously uninformed. And typical of your ongoing hysterics.

 

1. Don't hold rallies calling it a hoax.
2. Don't go on TV and say it will magically disappear.
3. Don't disband the Pandemic Response Team
4. Don't reject the WHO offering of initial test kits to the United States.

If Trump hadn't been an idiot, maybe the infrastructure would have been set in place that we could have faced this head on. But the administration is bereft of anyone of expertise and the only ones left are lackeys and boot-licks, neither of which are good skill sets for facing a global pandemic.

He basically took the country's firemen and said, "Why are we paying all these firemen to just sit around? I don't like people sitting around." And he fired them. Now the country is burning out of control.

But it's not his fault.

 

Well...
1) It's an open ended hypothetical question.

2) Myself, and many other people like myself, have a problem with that answer. The virus' timetable? Yeah... There's a big difference between 2 more weeks and 2 more years of lockdown.

So let's expand on this idea of "The virus' timetable".

 

The hysterics are in “fear China” not in challenging those promoting that hysteria.

Your lack of substantive response belies lack of experience with or in China. It’s so much easier to just become part of the chorus, but challenge yourself. Why not do the hard work and find out the bases for what you say instead of parroting fear and loathing?

By the way, you’ve boycotted WalMart and Apple, right? You don’t consume China-made products and don’t promote those economic ties? Use Li-Ion battery devices?

Act in accordance with your beliefs and you’ll have more credibility.

 

The above are just words. They don't accomplish anything.

Fair enough. What would this team have done in 45 days? You have a lot of faith in government teams.



Fair criticism, but two points here. One, some of those kits were defective. Second, all that does is confirm who has it. In a country of 325 million+ , WHO didn't offer us anything even close to what our population is.



Yet again, another Trump attack. Ignoring all that anti-Trump stuff you just wrote, the only statement of substance is "maybe the infrastructure would have been set in place to face this head on." Okay, lets dissect that. One, it's an upper respiratory virus. We didn't know that until the virus showed itself. That's why ventilators are essentials for this virus outbreak. So are you implying we should have just assumed that the next pandemic would have been an upper respiratory one and go ahead and stockpile on respirators and ICUs? Second, our country (like EVERY other country out there) is not equipped to handle a pandemic of this type. We simply cannot build hospitals that stay empty until a pandemic reveals itself.


Be honest - this is one of those once in a lifetime events (last big one Spanish flu 1918, then next big one 1956-1958 asian flu). SARs and MERs and Ebola were nothing compared to those two things and this COVID outbreak. There is no way we could have done anything measurable or reasonable in the 45 days that we had.

 

The projections are out there, granted they’re just projections, but they’re objective and we can examine assumptions and compare data.

The goal is flatten the curve, understanding that the curves will differ depending on location and resources available, as well as countermeasures employed.

Understand we may well ALL catch this virus at some point, but that won’t affect the economy IF people know (1) there is a shot that works, OR (2) they’ve survived it and they know they won’t get sick again.

So others have opined on the inoculation challenge, but that’s not years, it’s months. And we are just beginning to see people infected, it’s too soon to see big numbers survive and recover, and return to normal life.

So you’re asking for a definite where none exists, but the variables are clear. It’s also clear that if we work together we can make it shorter than if we wing it, take different paths, or fail to heed the warnings that our experts are giving us.

 

Every time I’ve seen Dr Fauci speak about the vaccine, he has stated that it’s at least a year away. I don’t think anyone is going to risk putting out a bad vaccine just to placate POTUS. After all, you don’t want the cure to be worse than the disease right?

Speaking of POTUS, I think it’s ridiculous to call him a wartime president and I think it’s an insult for him to proclaim himself as such. I understand how you’re defining it, but it’s still ridiculous to even think of him in that way. First of all, what actual wartime president has ever said “we’re at war, you states go out and fight and we’ll back you up if you fail”? None. Wartime presidents have to be leaders and leaders take charge, lead from the front and have to make timely, often unpopular decisions for the benefit of everyone they are responsible for, not just the people who like them. Trump has stated in the past that he doesn’t care about people who didn’t vote for him and he’s showing it now. He spent weeks downplaying the seriousness of the virus which gave it time to spread and he sent 18 tons of medical supplies to China which depleted our supply and now he’s hesitant to take appropriate action to fix that mistake. His indecisiveness is being mirrored by his lackeys all over the southeast who, like him, refuse to make the unpopular decisions necessary to stop the spread. He keeps repeating that he shut down flights to China, but the virus was already here so that did nothing since he took no other action to stop the spread. He also keeps whining that he inherited a broken system; if I buy a used car and 3 years later it breaks down, I don’t blame the guy I bought it from.

This has all been severely mismanaged by Trump from the beginning. He went from saying that we’d go from 15 infected to 0 like a miracle, to saying that if we keep the number of dead to between 100k and 200k then they did a good job. Why would he say that? It’s because someone finally convinced him that the number of deaths will likely exceed 100k and he’s already preparing to declare himself a “winner”. In a month, when he changes that to 500k because he realizes that his stop the spread measures aren’t working, then I hope some of you finally wake up to the fact that Trump is unfit and incapable of leading this country.

 

All I see is excuse making and hand-waving away incompetence. Why would we need 300 million WHO tests? Those early WHO tests would have been instrumental in identifying the early cases and isolating them. But we let this fire rage out of control.

And words do matter. If we had had an adult leading us, then we, as a nation, would have taken this as seriously as it needed to be. Instead it was a joke, or a political attack. Anything but the deadly threat that it is.

Yes, we wouldn't have stopped the virus from coming to the US. But we could have had a plan in place to lessen its spread. Now it's everywhere. And lots of Americans will die. People will lose their jobs.

We could have had an outcome like South Korea or Germany.
Instead, we'll lead the world in infections and deaths per capita. America First, am I right?

Because we didn't do anything for 45 days.