Day off definitions: saga continues
12-24-2021, 08:19 AM
#11
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
Who cares what you ‘consider days off’ lol. If you’re on call, you need to be contactable by your job and ready to come into work. That’s not a day off. That’s not even that enjoyable knowing your phone can ring at any second. Looking back in hindsight at your ‘days off’ doesn’t change this fact either. Give it a rest.
12-24-2021, 08:25 AM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Days off are defined in most contracts. A res day doesn’t meet the definition. Moving along now.
12-24-2021, 08:28 AM
#15
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 98
By that definition, I guess a FedEx guy on a 72hr layover in Paris who flies his wife over to stay in the company hotel, and can LITERALLY leave his phone in the hotel room for 72hrs and suffer no repercussions.
he isnt actually working, but can consider that part of “paid vacation and 3 days off.”
or the guy with a 36hr layover in SLC, leaves his phone in room and goes skiing. “Day off”
I need to change my number of days “off”….
he isnt actually working, but can consider that part of “paid vacation and 3 days off.”
or the guy with a 36hr layover in SLC, leaves his phone in room and goes skiing. “Day off”
I need to change my number of days “off”….
12-24-2021, 08:28 AM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 428
Originally Posted by labbats
I knew this thread would go off the rails but would have never guessed a pilot would argue being on call is a day off.
12-24-2021, 08:29 AM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by DeltaDave2022
Eating breakfast at home. Watching tv . Playing with the dog. Hanging out with family. Going to gym. Going out to dinner. Skipping town cause you got a 12 hour call out. Sleeping in your own bed. Not days off eh? Ill take notes while i credit 150 a month and report 10 days for work.
If I'm a lineholder and have to put on a uniform for 15 days to credit 75 hours and I have to put on a uniform 2 days to credit the same amount but only have 13 contractual days off, I worked way harder as a lineholder with (technically) 2 less "days off."
12-24-2021, 08:31 AM
#18
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,470
Originally Posted by CBreezy
This. Just because I'm not free to travel the world doesn't mean I'm working..I'm generally able to do whatever I want..
If I'm a lineholder and have to put on a uniform for 15 days to credit 75 hours and I have to put on a uniform 2 days to credit the same amount but only have 13 contractual days off, I worked way harder as a lineholder with (technically) 2 less "days off."
If I'm a lineholder and have to put on a uniform for 15 days to credit 75 hours and I have to put on a uniform 2 days to credit the same amount but only have 13 contractual days off, I worked way harder as a lineholder with (technically) 2 less "days off."
Keep things comparable, otherwise this just goes into absurdium. I'll give an example:
Atlas FO, I have 21 days off this month and I credit 114 hours.
12-24-2021, 08:31 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by Reese
By that definition, I guess a FedEx guy on a 72hr layover in Paris who flies his wife over to stay in the company hotel, and can LITERALLY leave his phone in the hotel room for 72hrs and suffer no repercussions.
he isnt actually working, but can consider that part of “paid vacation and 3 days off.”
I need to change my number of days “off”
he isnt actually working, but can consider that part of “paid vacation and 3 days off.”
I need to change my number of days “off”
12-24-2021, 08:32 AM
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,102
Originally Posted by CBreezy
We aren't talking about contractual days off. But if I had to turn a wheel 5 times this fall, I have no problem saying I really didn't have to work the other 85 days.
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