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06-11-2022 | 06:01 AM
#113
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Just so I understand:
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision?
Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.
But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision?
Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.
But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.
06-11-2022 | 06:20 AM
#114
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Joined: Jan 2013
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From: Seated
Just so I understand:
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision?
Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.
But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.
Envoy negotiated a pay raise with a sunset provision?
Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.
But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.
It will, because pilots are stupid.
They won’t be able to afford the pay cut.
And more and more of them will justify staying.
06-11-2022 | 07:25 AM
#115
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Yup, devil is in the details as always.
Yup. Cash on the barrel does make a difference, for some people and with enough cash, but most pilots are smart enough to take a longer-term view (nature of the profession). But if you're young and legacy bound it's very attractive way to get fast PIC at excellent pay rates... so good recruiting move.
Seems like the smart money in a record hiring environment would be to leave as soon as possible to get on with the major of your choice asap anyway (seniority, better overall earning potential, job stability, etc)
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.
But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.
If you’re at Envoy and sixty years old, or don’t want to leave for other non-pay related reasons, this is ok, I guess.
But it’s not going to stem the flow of pilots leaving for greener pastures the second they’re able. Maybe drum up some new entrants for a bit, but even those will leave as quickly as possible.
06-11-2022 | 12:39 PM
#117
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Robert don’t-spend-any-more-than-i-want-to Isom probably figured he just has to slow the bleeding just enough and if he can do it by only paying a fraction of the pilot group, why not? Strike a deal with one. Wait, see if the correction takes effect.
06-11-2022 | 03:07 PM
#120
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Joined: Jun 2008
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From: 737 CAPT
These pay rates are only temporary for 2 years. Are you sure the $213 rate you are talking about applies after that two years? Year 20 at the normal new pay rates will be $142.50.
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