rickair7777

Congress people from areas hit by reductions in regional service may support age 67...

https://qctimes.com/news/state-and-r...e46c75163.html

threeighteen

Small but important fact check: ALPA has not made it clear that killing off the regionals "once and for all"

They just allowed the wholly owned carriers to give AA a lifeline to save the regionals and accept temporary pay rates that will be rescinded as soon as AA wants.

rickair7777

Killing off the regionals, and ending air service to hundreds of small/medium sized communities, is not going to be a good look for any politician, of any stripe.

They don't love airline unions quite that much. Under the current regulatory structure, .gov cannot *force* the airlines to bring RJ's in house, or to serve specific destinations. That was all pre-1979.

So the apparent practical political path is to somehow try to keep the regionals alive.

Bozo the pilot

There is no fix to anything-just adapt to the problems and keep it on you. You wanna go out at 55, go, if a guy wants to fly till 70, let him.
Ill never fly past 65, but whining about what little seniority this costs is a waste of time.
Hypocrisy abounds from all angles here.

OOfff

take it up with the person who suggested millennials and genZ say, "We're going to fix this, so future generations won't suffer the same fate, even though I'll personally never see it."

that wasn’t my quote

01110011

There are roughly 1500 pilots junior and older than me. That is not a little seniority when it comes to bidding. I have no issue with the people senior to me as long as they have all their marbles, I have a huge issue with my seniority being abrogated by the people older and junior to me.

The stagnation is whatever. Can’t control Congress. I don’t like it but I won’t whine about people staying as long as they are still all there mentally.

awax

RAA who's member airlines are losing manpower to the majors. ALPA has historically had a "NO" policy to get a seat a the table, this strategy may backfire this time. If congress musters the will and believes it benefits the traveling public, pilots are just along for the ride. Watch the aviation subcommittee hearings to see who actually gets to testify, that I believe will be all telling.

awax

Nothing would happen to your seniority if the retirement age changed. Those below you on the list would remain below you (junior) those above you on the list would remain above you (senior). Nothing changes there. And BTW, "older and junior to you" classic!

I think what you're whining about is a potential two year stagnation in career progression which no doubt would happen, but, that would affect everyone equally. No?

AllYourBaseAreB

no, it benefits those who are already in their final airline/base/aircraft/seat/bidding%. So they get an extra 2 years there. The guys behind him waiting to get to that same spot will be delayed Time value of money lost from that delayed upgrade or off reserve. Being told to work two more years past 65 to make up for it. Unable to move to home base. Not getting that vacation slot. Not getting the trips you want. Not getting hired at the majors(not as terrible now at American eagle…)

01110011

Only snag with your snarky response is that ICAO hasn’t raised the age. What happens to the 66 year old widebody captains that can’t do international trips anymore? The 66 year old Airbus or 73 FO that can’t do Canada? What happens when a Canada trips goes into open time and they get skipped (and a bonus day at home) because they can’t fly it and it goes to someone senior and younger than them?

what happens if, theoretically, WB is junior to NB? Will I get displaced off a NB fleet so a 66 year old junior to me can take it? Will they get furloughed if there aren’t any NB spots available?

PBS will steal my domestic trips to fill out their schedule.

I truly don’t really care about the stagnation. It’s not something we can control. Moving up and down on the list due to reasons I have no control over is something I accepted the day I decided to get into this profession. What I do care about is getting into a career where seniority is god and then watching people leapfrog me solely because they’re too old to fulfill the job as advertised (try getting hired as a pilot at a legacy if you can’t legally work outside of the US) and need an accommodation at my seniority expense.