Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act (Age 67)
07-29-2022, 02:29 AM
#202
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Hard facts like pilots will have nothing to do with it. Decisions on age limits are made by the Congress.
07-29-2022, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Not true… Should Congress pass the proposed bill…. those active pilots against the bill have the right to hang up their goggles at any age they choose.
07-29-2022, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Not true… Should Congress pass the proposed bill…. those active pilots against the bill have the right to hang up their goggles at any age they choose.
The cognitive decline argument is ridiculous. It's a small percentage. i am Part 91. Fly with older people all the time. Most of them are just as sharp, or sharper than the younger ones. People live much healthier and longer lives than in the past.
07-29-2022, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
Most of them are just as sharp, or sharper than the younger ones.
And if you think cognitive decline isn’t real, you’re probably already on that downward slope.
07-29-2022, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
This profession is all about safety. You just said that only “most” of them are as sharp as younger people. If some of them are noticeably less sharp than younger people (<65), what happens when you pair two of those less sharp geriatrics together? People’s lives are at stake here. I certainly wouldn’t be comfortable with my family riding in the back of a plane flown by two elderly people. It’s not fair to the traveling public who have no choice but to put their lives in the hands of their pilots.
And if you think cognitive decline isn’t real, you’re probably already on that downward slope.
And if you think cognitive decline isn’t real, you’re probably already on that downward slope.
07-29-2022, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
I generously left out the lack of skills of some of the younger pilots who come and go through our department. There are deficiencies in all ages and it is disingenuous to ignore that. What you really want is a training department that rigorously upholds standards. Don't complain when the result of that is some 40 somethings being cut due to lack of skills. If you don't recognize some of those unskilled pilots YOU may be already on that list.
Also, I have no idea what your training department is like, but it sounds like it leaves much to be desired. I’m all for testing for cognitive decline, and think it should be extended to our politicians as well.
07-29-2022, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
I recognize that some pilots aren’t very skilled. That has nothing to do with age.
Also, I have no idea what your training department is like, but it sounds like it leaves much to be desired. I’m all for testing for cognitive decline, and think it should be extended to our politicians as well.
Also, I have no idea what your training department is like, but it sounds like it leaves much to be desired. I’m all for testing for cognitive decline, and think it should be extended to our politicians as well.
07-29-2022, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Millennials have been dealt a raw hand, no doubt about that. Not a boomer myself; solid GenX. Millennials are toast.
No fault of your own...until you're 30 or so. The grow TF up. Nobody cares.
Plenty of "get out of my way, old man. I want what's yours!" here.
Not a single instance of "We're going to fix this, so future generations won't suffer the same fate, even though I'll personally never see it."
You'd be amazed how much support you'd get from GenX for that attitude.
No fault of your own...until you're 30 or so. The grow TF up. Nobody cares.
Plenty of "get out of my way, old man. I want what's yours!" here.
Not a single instance of "We're going to fix this, so future generations won't suffer the same fate, even though I'll personally never see it."
You'd be amazed how much support you'd get from GenX for that attitude.
I don't want what's theirs, I want what's mine. Rightfully mine. That which I've been told my whole career to pay my dues for, which I've done, only now to be told nah, I'm keeping it, pound sand and quit yer whining.
Don't think for one minute that 67 will be the last raise. Next step for the Selfish Generation is no mandatory retirement at all.
Which they will just sit out on LTD and bankrupt that system too. But hey, they got theirs and pulled up the ladder.
07-29-2022, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
I generously left out the lack of skills of some of the younger pilots who come and go through our department. There are deficiencies in all ages and it is disingenuous to ignore that. What you really want is a training department that rigorously upholds standards.
Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
I I'm glad you acknowledge that age has nothing to do with skillfully flying a plane.
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