Cujo665

Good for you, so glad that the jumpseat police can go home at night sleeping soundly that they've saved humanity from the guy in jeans and sneakers. What about the guy in uniform but wearing black sneakers like a lot of folks seem to do these days? did you kick him off too? Probably not right? So, it's okay to break the rules with sneakers as long as it doesn't break YOUR rules.... okay, got it.

I've never left anybody behind when a seat was available. I may speak with them, show them the policy, and say "hey, you may not be so lucky next time," and use it as an educational moment. I have given a jetbridge tune up to a guy that seemed to think he was entitled to my jumpseat, but even he rode too. Took a guy home once in his Hawaiian Shirt and Shorts (his bags were checked)....

Attitude goes a long way when you aren't operating exactly within the goalposts. My biggest pet peeve was the new kids that wouldn't even stop in because the GA gave them a seat in back. They'd get a tune up, but still ride.

The beard thing I agree with. Some O2 masks are placarded no beards. It's funny, we have the same mask on the Boeing, but it doesn't have the placard. It's probably like everything else, if you pay the extra fee, they remove the placard, or increase your tailwind limitation.

Gone Flying

triangle airlines does not allow beards on the JS, only exception is secret service. Everyone else including FAA can’t have a beard.

dumb rule IMO but no one asked me.

Jetlikespeed

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usernamehere

In my opinion, the jumpseat policies should be enforced with a talk or denial. Getting denied will be a lesson not soon forgotten. And just maybe, you’ll keep whoever from making a fool of themselves later. Professionalism, is important to all of our job securities. The way you dress is part of that. A lot of people before you have done a lot more for a lot less and for a much longer time. Honor that and yourself. The corporations want you to be replaceable widgets. You’re not.

The bare minimum is not hard. Also, you’re the last line of defense to 100s of lives per day, 1000s of jobs, and 2 billion dollars. Act like it.

Noisecanceller

1000% this

ThumbsUp

Really? They should update that on their JS profile. Doesn’t mention that. UA says no, AA says yes. DL doesn’t even approach the subject.

TransWorld

Spot on. Being an airline pilot is partly skills, partly about being a professional. Dress and act the part.

rickair7777

First off let's be real: There's almost nobody out there who doesn't know you're supposed to shave and wear biz casual for the jumpseat, everybody gets told that at some point during indoc. Ex-mil guys don't wing stuff like that, they'll look it up or ask their buds. Regional noobs might possibly have not been told, since the commuters are in such disarray these days.

Old guys should really have no excuse because you used to need a jacket and tie back in the day.

My personal philosophy is a reasonable intersection of written policy and the current enforcement climate. If memos are flying or people are getting carpet dances then I'm going to deny someone who's grossly outside policy. Otherwise I'll just politely mention the policy for future reference to hopefully save some hassle for someone down the line.

It also matters if the flight's originating at the mothership during bankers hours when all of the Company Men are out and about.

I'm not willing to get on the radar or do a carpet dance on my day off because somebody is feeling a bit entitled to something that's more of a privilege.

I jump in jeans all the time but they're khaki colored and pass for biz casual. I also wear a collar of some sort... I own a couple collared sports shirts for graduations, jumpseating, etc. All of which is comfortable for laid-back daily wear.

John Carr

2 lives ago I did JS work.

Although it's the new to the industry types that are usually unaware of the rules/etiquette, PLENTY of legacy pilot screw it up also. Not as common, but STILL HAPPENS.

The best part, after all the contact is made and both sides of the story were received, usually the legacy pilots got their nickers in a twist if asked/queried as to whether or not they have "business casual" attire they can change into vice the shorts/flipflops/tshirts their wearing, etc.

Like it was their god given right to ride that way.

The guidance/advice was;
1) Ask said pilot what their policy is, because usually, USUALLY most are the same. If pushback,

2) "If the rj pilot showed up on the legacy airline dressed in (insert anything but biz casual here), would they get a ride?"

Noisecanceller

Wait you have to go in on days off to talk to the CP?? Sorry drop trips with pay if they need to chat in person.