Please adhere to jumpseat etiquette
#21
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And have your certificates out and ready even if you have a seat in the back. Each airline has different policies. Don’t make the guys ask you for them or worse give them a hard time for asking.
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Wait until someone throws their flip flop clad feet up on the pedestal...
#23
Actually, I've been fairly impressed with everyone's jumpseat etiquette recently. Most people have their certificates handy and politely request the JS. I do have one little pet peeve and I admit that it's nit picky.... but most cockpits aren't that big... once the initial introductions and chit chat are over and the working crew goes back to preflighting, go hang out in the jetway. Stop breathing down their necks or getting in the way of the flight attendants or the boarding pax. Wait out there until the gate agent comes.... I promise I won't leave you behind
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Actually, I've been fairly impressed with everyone's jumpseat etiquette recently. Most people have their certificates handy and politely request the JS. I do have one little pet peeve and I admit that it's nit picky.... but most cockpits aren't that big... once the initial introductions and chit chat are over and the working crew goes back to preflighting, go hang out in the jetway. Stop breathing down their necks or getting in the way of the flight attendants or the boarding pax. Wait out there until the gate agent comes.... I promise I won't leave you behind
When I commuted, I'd usually do the intro/meet-greet, than say "I'm gonna wait on the jetway and get out of everyone's way"
Mostly a 73 issue.
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my biggest pet peeve is how a lot of captains aren’t on the same page with this. I’ve been shoo’ed out of the flight deck because “I have a seat in the back and don’t need to bother us” before. I always stop by and say hello, let them know I listed for the JS and got a seat in the back, but it’s hit or miss whether that was appreciated or not.
#27
Devil's advocate.
A frequent defense of enforcement is "to educate them for the future." This common refrain of "educating" and "mentoring" is a little condescending, but beyond that this defense's sole purpose is to perpetuate a policy that in this day and age could actually use revising. Why keep putting energy into it? Sort of a sunk cost fallacy.
The Air Canada Captain I saw the other day with a beard looked very professional. Surely most of us are on board with revising beard policy assuming it doesn't cost anything? But to be real, how many passengers really care that a person in jeans went into the flight deck? How many would even notice? Realistically, it has no bearing on anything.
And my grandfather fought in WWII, but that doesn't have much relevance here. I understand if company policy is XYZ, we have to do XYZ, but that doesn't necessitate over-the-top enforcement. And in the meantime, it's okay to nudge our organizations towards contemporary viewpoints on professionalism. This job doesn't have to be hard.
In my opinion, the jumpseat policies should be enforced with a talk or denial. Getting denied will be a lesson not soon forgotten. And just maybe, you’ll keep whoever from making a fool of themselves later.
Professionalism, is important to all of our job securities. The way you dress is part of that.
A lot of people before you have done a lot more for a lot less and for a much longer time.
#29
I’m disappointed to learn that so many airlines don’t allow beards on the JS. Surprised that AA seems to be to only one. We at AA are fighting for working pilots to be allowed to have a beard…guess I’d still have to shave since I JS on OALs quite a bit. Hopefully, this changes over time. If a male FA can wear a dress, painted nails and a beard (and it’s celebrated), you’d think pilots could have a beard (yes FAA allows now, look at UPS).
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I’m disappointed to learn that so many airlines don’t allow beards on the JS. Surprised that AA seems to be to only one. We at AA are fighting for working pilots to be allowed to have a beard…guess I’d still have to shave since I JS on OALs quite a bit. Hopefully, this changes over time. If a male FA can wear a dress, painted nails and a beard (and it’s celebrated), you’d think pilots could have a beard (yes FAA allows now, look at UPS).
Im as conservative as it gets and even I think it’s time to allow beards and before someone jumps in spouting “professional” nonsense, some of the most respected and successful professionals in the world have them.
The only reason this hasn’t changed sooner is because they’re people who want to cling to the old days.
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