Please adhere to jumpseat etiquette
06-27-2023, 02:17 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Past airlines, yes. Current airline? I honestly don't know and don't want to find out. My guess is that would be a phone call.
06-27-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
I’m disappointed to learn that so many airlines don’t allow beards on the JS. Surprised that AA seems to be to only one. We at AA are fighting for working pilots to be allowed to have a beard…guess I’d still have to shave since I JS on OALs quite a bit. Hopefully, this changes over time. If a male FA can wear a dress, painted nails and a beard (and it’s celebrated), you’d think pilots could have a beard (yes FAA allows now, look at UPS).
06-27-2023, 03:00 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by velosnow
Conversely, don’t be a dingus and request your jumpseater to do something contrary to your own FOM. Aka, tucking in a shirt that otherwise meets FOM policy.
06-27-2023, 04:00 PM
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My rule has always just been “don’t get me in trouble”.
My FOM says business casual, no beards, no jeans, no sneakers. I’m not going to give you **** for five o clock shadow, jeans that I could plausibly call dress pants from a distance, dressy sneakers that could arguably be business casual etc, because I feel like I could defend all of that if the powers that be call it out. I’m not the fashion police, I’m not going to put your shoes through a lumen meter to see if they’re shined enough, take a sample of your pant leg to see if it’s denim or khaki etc.
if you show up in torn jeans and flip flops and then make a post on Instagram whining about how the gate agents assumed you’re a flight attendant I’m going to point to my FOM and give you my sincerest apology.
My FOM says business casual, no beards, no jeans, no sneakers. I’m not going to give you **** for five o clock shadow, jeans that I could plausibly call dress pants from a distance, dressy sneakers that could arguably be business casual etc, because I feel like I could defend all of that if the powers that be call it out. I’m not the fashion police, I’m not going to put your shoes through a lumen meter to see if they’re shined enough, take a sample of your pant leg to see if it’s denim or khaki etc.
if you show up in torn jeans and flip flops and then make a post on Instagram whining about how the gate agents assumed you’re a flight attendant I’m going to point to my FOM and give you my sincerest apology.
06-27-2023, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Careful you are going to get the ole’timers and military is the only way to think crowd up in arms over statements like that.
Im as conservative as it gets and even I think it’s time to allow beards and before someone jumps in spouting “professional” nonsense, some of the most respected and successful professionals in the world have them.
The only reason this hasn’t changed sooner is because they’re people who want to cling to the old days.
Im as conservative as it gets and even I think it’s time to allow beards and before someone jumps in spouting “professional” nonsense, some of the most respected and successful professionals in the world have them.
The only reason this hasn’t changed sooner is because they’re people who want to cling to the old days.
06-27-2023, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
I’m disappointed to learn that so many airlines don’t allow beards on the JS. Surprised that AA seems to be to only one. We at AA are fighting for working pilots to be allowed to have a beard…guess I’d still have to shave since I JS on OALs quite a bit. Hopefully, this changes over time. If a male FA can wear a dress, painted nails and a beard (and it’s celebrated), you’d think pilots could have a beard (yes FAA allows now, look at UPS).
06-27-2023, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DryClutch
I flew with a CA once that had a jumpseater stop by in sneakers. He made him go into the terminal and buy a pair of biz casual shoes before they left. I hadn't seen that one before.
06-27-2023, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
my biggest pet peeve is how a lot of captains aren’t on the same page with this. I’ve been shoo’ed out of the flight deck because “I have a seat in the back and don’t need to bother us” before. I always stop by and say hello, let them know I listed for the JS and got a seat in the back, but it’s hit or miss whether that was appreciated or not.
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