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Old 03-22-2024 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Anyone feel like Sonic is one of those dudes on YouTube getting his window smashed in by the cops while crying about his ‘right to travel’?
I kind of picture him like the Steven Crowder meme, sitting at a table in a public place with the CHANGE MY MIND sign, just looking for people to argue with.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
You’re born into the system without your consent, and there’s no way to opt out.
You can vote with your feet. Good luck finding a better option.

I love 'libertarians' who lament government and central banks. I am still waiting for an example of a robust economy without either.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
You can vote with your feet. Good luck finding a better option.

I love 'libertarians' who lament government and central banks. I am still waiting for an example of a robust economy without either.
read the rest of it. You cannot opt out anywhere in the world. You must consent to some form of governance, which means it’s not consent.

thats fine, but don’t pretend it’s not true.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
You cannot opt out anywhere in the world.
Anywhere? I bet you could find some remote locale where nobody would care one iota what you do (freedumb), but that is not my point. Good luck finding a better system than the US or some of the better western democratic countries and I am still waiting on that example of libertarian nirvana that so many seem to love using as their imaginary standard.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
Anywhere? I bet you could find some remote locale where nobody would care one iota what you do (freedumb), but that is not my point. Good luck finding a better system than the US or some of the better western democratic countries and I am still waiting on that example of libertarian nirvana that so many seem to love using as their imaginary standard.
you would still be subject to the government in the territory in which you live. Not getting caught doesn’t mean you’ve had the option of opting out.

I'm not talking about finding a better place, I’m talking about the idea that you have no way to not be compelled to consent to governance. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s true.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:28 AM
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Whatever entirely flawed and broken system we have now has me, as an upper middle class delta captain, pretty much at the pinnacle of the human race as far as healthcare, safety, leisure activities, and overall general stability.

It’s wild that most of us don’t realize this. Yeah, the system could be better, but good lord look at your life now vs. what life was like for people 1000 years ago and what it is even now for 90% of people around the world.

you should all be kissing your lucky stars the random lottery of birth has you where you are instead of dreaming about some utopia. History has also shaken out in your favor pretty well. I’d be cautious about wanting big change to whatever system we have now.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I’m talking about the idea that you have no way to not be compelled to consent to governance.
Why? What's the point? Unlike libertarians I prefer discussing reality.

Originally Posted by Extenda
You should all be kissing your lucky stars the random lottery of birth has you where you are instead of dreaming about some utopia. History has also shaken out in your favor pretty well. I’d be cautious about wanting big change to whatever system we have now.
Hear, hear!
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
Whatever entirely flawed and broken system we have now has me, as an upper middle class delta captain, pretty much at the pinnacle of the human race as far as healthcare, safety, leisure activities, and overall general stability.

It’s wild that most of us don’t realize this. Yeah, the system could be better, but good lord look at your life now vs. what life was like for people 1000 years ago and what it is even now for 90% of people around the world.

you should all be kissing your lucky stars the random lottery of birth has you where you are instead of dreaming about some utopia. History has also shaken out in your favor pretty well. I’d be cautious about wanting big change to whatever system we have now.
This! We've been given the best system of government in the history of humankind, and yet there are some who are like "this sucks, I can do better."

Instead of trying to burn down our existing institutions, why not try to make it better?
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
you would still be subject to the government in the territory in which you live. Not getting caught doesn’t mean you’ve had the option of opting out.

I'm not talking about finding a better place, I’m talking about the idea that you have no way to not be compelled to consent to governance. Whether that’s right or wrong, it’s true.
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Sooo... if one lives on a boat in international waters who exactly is the government?
How about Antarctica?

But bigger picture ... if you think that living in the Alaska or northern Canada wilderness is going to come with governance, you're just being obstinate. And there are plenty of other places on this globe where one need not be concerned about government.
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Old 03-22-2024 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
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Sooo... if one lives on a boat in international waters who exactly is the government?
How about Antarctica?
you cannot live indefinitely in international waters in a self sustaining manner. Due to international treaty, you cannot live in Antarctica.

But bigger picture ... if you think that living in the Alaska or northern Canada wilderness is going to come with governance, you're just being obstinate. And there are plenty of other places on this globe where one need not be concerned about government.
You’re still subject to governance by those authorities, even if you don’t get caught.
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