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Old 09-28-2025 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
That exactly what ALPA National did in the 50's and 60's.

Full circle!
Lowering the retirement age is a far different rug pull than arguing against raising it. Although even that 'common knowledge' is revisionist history.

ICAO established 60 in 1947. The events you are talking about occurred in the late 50s when pilots challenged the 'forced retirements' which led to the FAA codifying the ICAO standard in regulation.

If anything ALPA spent far more effort opposing 60 than supporting it over those decades.

Old 09-28-2025 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
Lowering the retirement age is a far different rug pull than arguing against raising it. Although even that 'common knowledge' is revisionist history.

ICAO established 60 in 1947. The events you are talking about occurred in the late 50s when pilots challenged the 'forced retirements' which led to the FAA codifying the ICAO standard in regulation.
Plus the fact that the airlines industry 70 years ago was a completely different animal. Pilot compensation, safety record, the routine nature of seasonal furloughs, all while operating in the pre-deregulation era. Part of the reason we got the retirement and compensation we have as pilots was in part thanks to having a mandatory retirement age.

Imagine being an old Dork and not knowing the history of your profession. I guess when you're playing with god, fambily and country there arent any neurons left to digest the real world.
Old 09-28-2025 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
Lowering the retirement age is a far different rug pull than arguing against raising it. Although even that common knowledge is revisionist history. ICAO established 60 in 1947. The events you are talking about occurred when pilots challenged the 'forced retirements' which led to the FAA codifying the ICAO standard in regulation.
... 1963.

I was talking about race, that old routine where people say, “You’re fine here; you can eat and sleep in this town,” but then point over there (insert Cape Air) like that’s where the line is. I thought I was going to be “unsafe”?

Yeah, that.
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Plus the fact that the airlines industry 70 years ago was a completely different animal. Pilot compensation, safety record, the routine nature of seasonal furloughs, all while operating in the pre-deregulation era. Part of the reason we got the retirement and compensation we have as pilots was in part thanks to having a mandatory retirement age.

Imagine being an old Dork and not knowing the history of your profession. I guess when you're playing with god, fambily and country there arent any neurons left to digest the real world.
Ah, more civility!

Like "1947" when in fact it was 1963!

Classic!

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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Plus the fact that the airlines industry 70 years ago was a completely different animal. Pilot compensation, safety record, the routine nature of seasonal furloughs, all while operating in the pre-deregulation era. Part of the reason we got the retirement and compensation we have as pilots was in part thanks to having a mandatory retirement age.

Imagine being an old Dork and not knowing the history of your profession. I guess when you're playing with god, fambily and country there arent any neurons left to digest the real world.
The "real world"!

Old 09-28-2025 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
I thought I was going to be “unsafe”?

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From the executive summary of "Pilot Age and Accident Rates Report 4. Executive summary:

"The findings are consistent across the three analyses. First, for accidents occurringunder 14 CFR §121 and §135, the analyses supported the hypothesis that a "U"-shapedrelationship exists between the age of professional pilots holding ATP or commercial andfirst- or second-class medical certificates and their accident rate. Second, the accident ratefor the 60-63 age group was statistically greater than the accident rate for 55 or 56 to 59year old pilots in the a priori planned comparisons. Third, the main effect for age wasstatistically significant in all analyses. These findings suggested that the probability of anaviation accident under §121 and §135, as a function of pilot annual flight hours, wasrelated to pilot age."
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
The "real world"!

You losing it big guy? Did I make any assertions about specific years? You can't actually refute anything I said. Go take your Alpha Brain.

Old 09-28-2025 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork

Will I continue to donate? YES. Why? I have friends on both BODs, and they’ll remain involved after retirement. If they ask me to help cover others’ travel, I’ll help.
Not a surprise. If I discovered a goose that laid golden eggs I'd keep collecting them. Is it ironic that many of the contributions come from pilots hoping to have more in retirement but will now have less?
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
You losing it big guy? Did I make any assertions about specific years? You can't actually refute anything I said. Go take your Alpha Brain.
I recently learned about a term called "extinction burst "
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
You losing it big guy? Did I make any assertions about specific years? You can't actually refute anything I said. Go take your Alpha Brain.
"plus the fact" is you agreeing to his facts --> (ICAO/age 60/1947)!

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