IATA Calls for Raising Pilot Age Limit to 67
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lol
Thought we were about safety 100%??
I mean you can’t preform in a sim, when you know the date it’s going down well ahead of time, how can I safely expect you to execute a real life V1 cut/fire/single engine aprch situation?
Real world the best place (by a large margin) we can weed out people who are not safe is in recurrent, but both sides don’t want that because they are full of **** when it comes to not just talking/BSing about “safety” …but actually being about safety
Thought we were about safety 100%??
I mean you can’t preform in a sim, when you know the date it’s going down well ahead of time, how can I safely expect you to execute a real life V1 cut/fire/single engine aprch situation?
Real world the best place (by a large margin) we can weed out people who are not safe is in recurrent, but both sides don’t want that because they are full of **** when it comes to not just talking/BSing about “safety” …but actually being about safety
Want to be that rigid, hope you never busted 250 knots below 10K even by 1 knot. Fired! Not a safe pilot because you can't manage the energy state of your plane.
If your point is both sides have their selfish reasons and latching onto a catchy argument to justify their position, then I am with you. But if you're serious that a failed ride should entail termination, then GTFO. You're no better than those that advocated for single pilot ops, return of astronaut physicals, etc to inflict as much damage to the next generations careers just because they didn't get their way with Age 67 with their BS arguments.
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Failing a ride does not mean they are not safe.
Want to be that rigid, hope you never busted 250 knots below 10K even by 1 knot. Fired! Not a safe pilot because you can't manage the energy state of your plane.
If your point is both sides have their selfish reasons and latching onto a catchy argument to justify their position, then I am with you. But if you're serious that a failed ride should entail termination, then GTFO. You're no better than those that advocated for single pilot ops, return of astronaut physicals, etc to inflict as much damage to the next generations careers just because they didn't get their way with Age 67 with their BS arguments.
Want to be that rigid, hope you never busted 250 knots below 10K even by 1 knot. Fired! Not a safe pilot because you can't manage the energy state of your plane.
If your point is both sides have their selfish reasons and latching onto a catchy argument to justify their position, then I am with you. But if you're serious that a failed ride should entail termination, then GTFO. You're no better than those that advocated for single pilot ops, return of astronaut physicals, etc to inflict as much damage to the next generations careers just because they didn't get their way with Age 67 with their BS arguments.
What I am clearly saying is trying to conflate “safety”to get someone more money is transparent to anyone who enjoys an above 82 IQ and independent thought.
Want to improve “safety”, presuming it needs improving, best place to tighten stuff up is on recurrent checkrides.
However BOTH sides don’t want that because it ain’t actually about being scared for safety, heck it’s not even about safety.
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do you have any data to support the idea that “tightening up” recurrent under the current system would meaningfully improve safety? i would love to see it if you do.
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Compared to changing a random boot off campus date by 730days?
yes
common friggin’ sense
As far as MEANINGFULLY improving the false god of “safety”, no.
Hardening up recurrents will not make a huge difference, just like 65 vs 67 won’t make a difference, because most 121 flying is already so sterilized, regimented, the planes already have so many redundant systems & nanny features, think it’s about as safe as screeching across the sky in a tin can can be.
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Don’t listen. Standards are higher than ever, any of you regular passengers out there listening in. I’m a regular ck. in boarder too. Taking into account the present system, surveillance, security, media headline headhunters, you are in good hands. Safer than ever before. Takes a lot to lift good airplanes and solvent airlines. Do your part when traveling.
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Don’t listen. Standards are higher than ever, any of you regular passengers out there listening in. I’m a regular ck. in boarder too. Taking into account the present system, surveillance, security, media headline headhunters, you are in good hands. Safer than ever before. Takes a lot to lift good airplanes and solvent airlines. Do your part when traveling.
But I’d say the biggest issue with modern airlines is how people come up through the ranks, the cadet 0-hero cutting out lots of the PIC flying in a few jobs before 121 used to make a very well rounded pilot.
#1657
Sooooo. Troy Nehls announces nine days before the candidacy declaration deadline, he won't seek re-election. You can't make this stuff up.
And then, coincidentally, his TWIN BROTHER announces he will be running for that seat. I'm sure he'll be equally invested in his Delta captain brother's money grab.
This family is a pack of shameless grifters. But the geezers won't care. They'll plow money into the twin's campaign. So be it. I'm betting the twin is even more incompetent than the current guy.
And then, coincidentally, his TWIN BROTHER announces he will be running for that seat. I'm sure he'll be equally invested in his Delta captain brother's money grab.
This family is a pack of shameless grifters. But the geezers won't care. They'll plow money into the twin's campaign. So be it. I'm betting the twin is even more incompetent than the current guy.
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From what I’ve seen of most of the flying public, if they are concerned with “safety” they’d be better served with less servings and watching their waist line than worried about what we do in jets.
Same with plots, I’m more concerned with the 30yr old who looks 50 and I can’t even tell if he’s wearing a belt due to his gut, than some normal human looking 66yr old.
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I’ll try that next time when they pull me over for an arbitrary speed or I don’t pay an arbitrary amount in taxes.
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