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AAdvocate 04-12-2026 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 4022493)
Hot off the press. We can’t open the strait so now we’re going to be blockading it ourselves!

You can’t fire me I quit!

5D chess.

Honestly should have been done a lot sooner. NACHO is finally doing what always had to be done.

airplanes 04-12-2026 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 4022493)
Hot off the press. We can’t open the strait so now we’re going to be blockading it ourselves!

You can’t fire me I quit!

5D chess.

Haha. I’m going to blockade you EVEN HARDER! Michael Scott is running this country

Excargodog 04-12-2026 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by airplanes (Post 4022507)
Haha. I’m going to blockade you EVEN HARDER! Michael Scott is running this country

Yep. Two can play the mining game. Encircle Kharg and the other islands within Iran’s territorial waters with mines and just leave them there until someone rational gains control in Iran. If Iran sorties their little speedboats swat them with A-10s, attack helicopters, and drones.
Sort of like the island hopping campaign in the Pacific against the Bushido zealots in WW2. You can’t eat oil, and starving on an island is a $hitty way to martyr oneself.

Judge Smails 04-12-2026 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4022501)
It's disgusting. Never really seen anything like it really. I imagine this is what it was like during Vietnam.

Again... questioning or being against dumb decision making and not wanting to be dragged into endless war with no end in sight does not equal "rooting against" your own country.

Classic example of how two conflicting truths cannot be possible at the same time in some minds.

Extenda 04-12-2026 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4022515)
Yep. Two can play the mining game. Encircle Kharg and the other islands within Iran’s territorial waters with mines and just leave them there until someone rational gains control in Iran. If Iran sorties their little speedboats swat them with A-10s, attack helicopters, and drones.
Sort of like the island hopping campaign in the Pacific against the Bushido zealots in WW2. You can’t eat oil, and starving on an island is a $hitty way to martyr oneself.

Won’t this exacerbate the reason we want the strait open to begin with?

There is no plan. The rest of the world needs ships to flow through the strait. Who can last longer? Us or the regime? All they have to do is survive. It’s easy to dismiss elevated gas prices and the associated cost increase of everything else when you’re an upper middle class major airline pilot. What about everyone else?

AAdvocate 04-12-2026 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 4022517)
Again... questioning or being against dumb decision making and not wanting to be dragged into endless war with no end in sight does not equal "rooting against" your own country.

Classic example of how two conflicting truths cannot be possible at the same time in some minds.

Sure buddy, that's it. You just care too much.

Ice Bear 04-12-2026 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 4022455)
I would argue that the SOH is open from a political practicality...

But, it's not though.

We will fully open the SOH, get the Uranium out, and make it happen sooner rather than later.
How's that happen without boots on the ground?

UN Sec Gen said the world is in a much safer place now that we carried out these strikes.
Did he?

"I condemn today’s military escalation in the Middle East. The use of force by the United States and Israel against Iran, and the subsequent retaliation by Iran across the region, undermine international peace and security."

"I am gravely alarmed by the use of force by the United States against Iran today." -UN Secretary-General António Guterres

I bet this ultimately speeds the end of the Ukraine war, and I guarantee it has slowed any ambition for a Taiwanese war.
Our country unilaterally taking military action against smaller countries doesn't greenlight and embolden Russia and China to do the same? Three of the five permanent UN Security Council members have essentially nodded to each other this sort of thing is fine.

Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4022501)
It's disgusting. Never really seen anything like it really. I imagine this is what it was like during Vietnam.

Do you... do you retroactively support Vietnam?

And what Judge Smails said is correct. To suggest that criticizing a dumb war is unpatriotic is like saying you shouldn't speak up to the Captain when he's descending into terrain.

JurgenKlopp 04-12-2026 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4022515)
Yep. Two can play the mining game. Encircle Kharg and the other islands within Iran’s territorial waters with mines and just leave them there until someone rational gains control in Iran. If Iran sorties their little speedboats swat them with A-10s, attack helicopters, and drones.
Sort of like the island hopping campaign in the Pacific against the Bushido zealots in WW2. You can’t eat oil, and starving on an island is a $hitty way to martyr oneself.

Remember how that island hopping campaign took almost 2.5 years and killed 10,000’s of Americans. But sure anowhow let’s compare this situation to peleliu…

rickair7777 04-12-2026 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 4022540)
Remember how that island hopping campaign took almost 2.5 years and killed 10,000’s of Americans. But sure anowhow let’s compare this situation to peleliu…

And we ended up not having to invade the mainland after all...

CBreezy 04-12-2026 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4022547)
And we ended up not having to invade the mainland after all...

I wonder what we did instead? Can someone remind me?


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