View Poll Results: would you deny the j/s?
Yes I would deny a J/S to a non-scab list pilot.
43
18.53%
No, I would only deny an official scab list pilot.
189
81.47%
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Denying Jump seat.. a poll.
10-21-2007 | 08:23 AM
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10-21-2007 | 08:34 AM
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How well did Alaska pay when they were a startup? (ok bad question, as that was the 30's), but how about Southwest. or Airtran, etc?
I frankly think its worse when a well established union from a well established airline votes to accept deep pay cuts, thus re-defining the pay scales of everyone smaller (including startups)..
A start up with lots of promise opens up and tells its workers .. in due time you'll get paid better (and I assume their pilots will expect it), that's not so sad in my book... that's jobs.
So you'd turn away a VX or SX pilot?
I frankly think its worse when a well established union from a well established airline votes to accept deep pay cuts, thus re-defining the pay scales of everyone smaller (including startups)..
A start up with lots of promise opens up and tells its workers .. in due time you'll get paid better (and I assume their pilots will expect it), that's not so sad in my book... that's jobs.
So you'd turn away a VX or SX pilot?
10-21-2007 | 01:10 PM
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10-21-2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
I have never denied a jumpseat to scab.......However, when SCABS show up we often are below the allowable O2 limit for the extra person in the cockpit or the belts on the jumpseat look frayed and for safetys sake I better have it deffered.
They have never been denied. The problem is there is never a usable seat. Too bad.
They have never been denied. The problem is there is never a usable seat. Too bad.
10-21-2007 | 02:50 PM
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Yes, I have a Scab list with me and if the pilot is with UAL or CAL and I see that they were hired about the strike time, I apologize and tell them I have to check my list. When I determine they are clean I welcome them aboard and invite them to any available seat. If I see that they are on the list, I ask them if that is true (always is) and I ask them to leave my aircraft..............
10-21-2007 | 03:05 PM
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sure, that's how it's been for decades... this denying people with otherwise no union problems the j/s based only on where they work is a new thing, and frankly part of what wrong with this profession (or lack thereof).
10-21-2007 | 03:14 PM
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I have never denied a jumpseat to scab.......However, when SCABS show up we often are below the allowable O2 limit for the extra person in the cockpit or the belts on the jumpseat look frayed and for safetys sake I better have it deffered.
They have never been denied. The problem is there is never a usable seat. Too bad.
They have never been denied. The problem is there is never a usable seat. Too bad.
10-21-2007 | 04:23 PM
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How well did Alaska pay when they were a startup? (ok bad question, as that was the 30's), but how about Southwest. or Airtran, etc?
I frankly think its worse when a well established union from a well established airline votes to accept deep pay cuts, thus re-defining the pay scales of everyone smaller (including startups)..
Using your pay scales to define everyones pay!!!! Yes it is worse!
Rat bastages!
A start up with lots of promise opens up and tells its workers .. in due time you'll get paid better (and I assume their pilots will expect it), that's not so sad in my book... that's jobs.
I wonder how that is working for Jet Blew??? How long is due time???
So you'd turn away a VX or SX pilot?
I frankly think its worse when a well established union from a well established airline votes to accept deep pay cuts, thus re-defining the pay scales of everyone smaller (including startups)..
Using your pay scales to define everyones pay!!!! Yes it is worse!
Rat bastages!
A start up with lots of promise opens up and tells its workers .. in due time you'll get paid better (and I assume their pilots will expect it), that's not so sad in my book... that's jobs.
I wonder how that is working for Jet Blew??? How long is due time???
So you'd turn away a VX or SX pilot?
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