Gee, who could you be talking about?

 

Now, would it be legally possible for midwest ALPA to argue that they are now part of DL? and should be included in the DL ALPA seniority list?

 

Fit, in a word, "no." Research TSA / GoJets to see how ALPA got it's butt handed to it on a single carrier petition despite having the same management, scheduling, physical location, etc.... There were many more indications of a common transportation system and alter ego in that case. The NLRB ruled that creating an airline to get around scope language (to violate a PWA was legitimate). It was a loss none of us should forget with regard to GoJets and Teamsters. (oops, just read you are an E190 pilot, don't know where, but I'm sticking to my position on Teamsters & GoJets - that was shameful).

If Delta ends up with any 717's it will be done at arms length through Boeing.

I'm not sure the Delta MEC can do anything to help other than offer symbolic support. There is certainly some common ground since under code share this is a pretty easy end run around Delta's Section 1 and limits on the large RJ's.

I'm sick and tired of this outsourcing. Any pilot at any airline, including Delta, needs to wake up if they don't think this could not happen to them.

 

I'm thinking they have a plan in the works for just this reason. Maybe the elusive 100-seater will be flown by Republic under the Midwest banner and we'll "code-share" with them. I think this Midwest deal could end up being a mess for the Delta guys. DALPA and NWALPA should have required that Midwest be integrated into the whole mess while we were at it.

 

ALPA is about as useless and inept as most airline CEO's.

 

This is how Delta thinks of Midwest.....(direct flights only)

From: Kansas City Intl Apt MO US (MCI)
To: New York La Guardia Apt NY US (LGA)
Date: January 8, 2009
Weather forecast
DEP ARR [Flight]

7:00a 10:50a YX2080
3:25p 7:10p YX2084
6:20p 9:59p YX228
8:33a 1:29p YX2015
10:46a 4:19p UA682

From: Kansas City Intl Apt MO US (MCI)
To: New York La Guardia Apt NY US (LGA)
Date: March 10, 2009
Weather forecast
DEP ARR [Flight]

7:00a 10:50a YX2080
7:00a 10:50a DL6550
2:05p 5:55p DL6616
3:25p 7:10p YX2084
6:20p 9:59p YX228
8:33a 1:29p YX2015


Can you feel the love now?

 

Just like how the senior pilots "helped" those losing their jobs during the first furlough of pilots in Nov. 2001? Yeah, I was there and can attest to the fact that guys were picking up opentime the same day as I had to turn in my ID and escorted out of ops by security. I'm sorry this is happening to you guys, but kharma is a b!tch.

 

Sure, it's not right, but you show me a shop where at least some of that greed doesn't happen?

BTW, do you think you'll upgrade when you guys take over all of DHL's flying? Of course they'll get a chance to interview, wont they?

 

Dont worry, I work for an overseas carrier so fire away your comments.

Thanks for the reply puts a lot of things into perspective, makes me wonder If i will ever go back to the US.

 

First off, I apologize for the insensitivity of my post. As you can see, I still have no love lost for that time period. It is a shame with what is going on there. However, there was no support or "let's all do something..." when the junior guys got the shaft. 'Thems the breaks. I know. I just find it ironic that the shoe is now on the other foot.

And as to your second question, nope, no upgrade for me. Was never expecting one. And I have no control over who DHL decides to contract with. I have no control who UPS decides to interview. I'm just a line slug. If you're trying to make me feel guilty or ashamed at previous UPS practices, won't work. They do what they want to do.

Good luck to you.