Originally Posted by 757Driver

Again........

Time for you to head for the exit in Fantasyland.

I bet if you're real nice, management will give you everything you could possibly want.

Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by 402Fanatic

As I expected you to say. However, many professions require Master's degrees and the starting pay is similar to that of a first year B6 pilot. In my home state, having a Master's degree as a teacher will start you out lower than first year B6 pay at only $37,000 per year. But the pay raises are much slower and there is a cap at the end of 20 years of only $70,000 per year. Master's degrees at good to better schools will cost you between $40,000 and $60,000. That's after the four year degree as well.



I'm not promoting the profession. I'm just asking questions. A starting Paramedic or Fire Fighter in NYC gets paid an average of only $40,000 per year. While you may fly hundreds of people per day, a paramedic is asked to save lives every day. A paramedic will be called upon to save lives infinitely more times in their career than you will in yours. So why don't you go promote their profession?

If we're going to start arguing that we deserve higher pay then I don't think we can just compare to others in the same profession. Some jobs out there frankly are more important than being a pilot and they too prove their worth every day.

Originally Posted by 402Fanatic

As I expected you to say. However, many professions require Master's degrees and the starting pay is similar to that of a first year B6 pilot. In my home state, having a Master's degree as a teacher will start you out lower than first year B6 pay at only $37,000 per year. But the pay raises are much slower and there is a cap at the end of 20 years of only $70,000 per year. Master's degrees at good to better schools will cost you between $40,000 and $60,000. That's after the four year degree as well.

Originally Posted by syd111

Jay, not in chicago suburbs where we have some gym teachers that make over $100,000 per year and admin tops out at $400,000 plus per year. Don't know the rest of country.

Originally Posted by Herkulesdrvr

Is it possible to strike without a union? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by IC ALL

It won't, after all, this is an anonymous internet forum frequented by airline pilots. What do you expect?

In any case, Auburn, I'd like to thank you for your approach and demeanor at the forums. I'd guess three or four users have been banned during the Jetblue vote, on both sides of the issue, for their inability to converse in a respectable manner. Thanks for keeping it "above the belt" over the last couple of months.

Originally Posted by Auburn190Flyer

Thank my southern upbringing! Emotions continue to run high a week after the election results were announced, and though I was part of the 67% who abstained (voted NO), I am not jumping for joy as if I was part of the winning team. There are clearly some glaring issues that need to be addressed yesterday, and I remain optimistic Dave and our other leaders will take action. I think they finally "get it" and realize the results will be different the next time if they maintain the status quo. I might very well be singing a different tune over the next 12 months if improvements aren't made. I do not, however, expect all of our concerns to be addressed overnight, and hope my fellow pilots remain realistic with their expectations.

In any case, thanks for the kind words. I refuse to make this personal and publically villify individuals for standing by their convictions on either side of the debate. There is no need for that kind of school-yard bully behavior. We all need to move on and continue to work together harmoniously.