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Old 12-20-2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Hmmmm, if squeezing breasts can prevent breast cancer does squeezing testicles have the same effect?
So my ex-wife's attorney was just worried about my health?
Old 12-20-2012 | 08:14 AM
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Well it seems that this Virgin Atlantic deal is more interesting than I thought.
Ryanair is trying a hostile takeover of Aer Lingus. If that goes through, Ryanair has signed an MOU to give the Heathrow slots to BA. Those slots are the ones Virgin was counting on for the domestic feed from Manchester, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen. It turns out VA was going to wet lease 4 320s from Aer Lingus who would crew and fly those jets. But that won't be possible if BA's gets control of those slots. Seems VA doesn't have any scope provisions either if Aer Lingus was going to do the flying. At least that was my interpretation from the Aviation Week article.
IAG, Ryanair In Potentional Deal For Aer Lingus Slots At Heathrow
Old 12-20-2012 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Well it seems that this Virgin Atlantic deal is more interesting than I thought.
Ryanair is trying a hostile takeover of Aer Lingus. If that goes through, Ryanair has signed an MOU to give the Heathrow slots to BA. Those slots are the ones Virgin was counting on for the domestic feed from Manchester, Edinburgh, and Aberdeen. It turns out VA was going to wet lease 4 320s from Aer Lingus who would crew and fly those jets. But that won't be possible if BA's gets control of those slots. Seems VA doesn't have any scope provisions either if Aer Lingus was going to do the flying. At least that was my interpretation from the Aviation Week article.
IAG, Ryanair In Potentional Deal For Aer Lingus Slots At Heathrow
I think you miss read the article. Virgin has the slots. What they would lose is the partner to fly them. 12 day A319 trips out of London like we used to do out of FRA on the 727?
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Old 12-20-2012 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think you miss read the article. Virgin has the slots. What they would lose is the partner to fly them. 12 day A319 trips out of London like we used to do out of FRA on the 727?
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That would be great, but seems very doubtful...
Open Skies lets us fly between countries, but we couldn't do the intra England flying (think Cabotage)

We also would be backfilling early-out A320 captains, instead of displacing surplus A320 FOs if that were the plan...

More likely the jets will come from a more closely related operator.

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Old 12-20-2012 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
Hmmmm, if squeezing breasts can prevent breast cancer does squeezing testicles have the same effect?
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The New England Journal of Medicine doesn't say that it doesn't. So...
Originally Posted by Bainite
So my ex-wife's attorney was just worried about my health?
Well played.

Originally Posted by ExAF
Why would you want to squeeze your own breasts?
What are you talking about? The picture in the article cle... wait, let me read the article... .. ......... . ... ....... oh..... oops.

well, now I see how low information voters get their news.
Old 12-20-2012 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think you miss read the article. Virgin has the slots. What they would lose is the partner to fly them. 12 day A319 trips out of London like we used to do out of FRA on the 727?
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yes, I did read it wrong, sorry. VA got the slots BA had to give up, now they just need jets and presumably crews to do the flying. The Scots might let us do the Aberdeen and Edinburgh to Heathrow flying, they don't consider themselves British anyway. TIC
Old 12-20-2012 | 09:35 AM
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Old 12-20-2012 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
yes, I did read it wrong, sorry. VA got the slots BA had to give up, now they just need jets and presumably crews to do the flying. The Scots might let us do the Aberdeen and Edinburgh to Heathrow flying, they don't consider themselves British anyway. TIC
Possibly downward pressure towards VA doing more inter-Europe regional flying while other "new" partners pick up growth on the international side of the house?

(Or wishful thinking on my behalf?)
Old 12-20-2012 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Possibly downward pressure towards VA doing more inter-Europe regional flying while other "new" partners pick up growth on the international side of the house?

(Or wishful thinking on my behalf?)
That's exactly the way I look at it. We don't want to be the victims of cabotage, or participants. We just want to do our fair share of flying, considering our airline bought 49% of theirs. The number of slots is finite, so there is no growth story, just a reallocation story. Let the Virgin pilots fly their domestic feed into the TA operation, and we'll fly our domestic feed to our side. Then we can split the TA flying using appropriate ratios. No jobs lost at VA.

Or is that just too logical?
Old 12-20-2012 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
yes, I did read it wrong, sorry. VA got the slots BA had to give up, now they just need jets and presumably crews to do the flying. The Scots might let us do the Aberdeen and Edinburgh to Heathrow flying, they don't consider themselves British anyway. TIC
TOC indeed. We don't need to do their intra-Europe. They can shift crews to do the intra-Europe, and we can fly more of the Atlantic, in a cost-effective way.
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