Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Oh and BTW, DPA as a grassroots movement in ALPA would be very powerful.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Getting pilots engaged is what it is about, and if DPA can do that, great.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

We need ALL pilots engaged in the process. Apathy is no excuse, and if DPA can change that and then effect change at the LEC level, I am all for the pilots getting their voices heard.

Originally Posted by tsquare

blah blah blah blah... yeah.. ya'll went on strike.. BFD.

Originally Posted by JobHopper

I think some added vim and vigor would do this union some good, but I am tiring of the Red/Blue debate. I remember the saber rattling prior to our '98 strike. Three weeks later we walked in with virtually the same contract we struck over. My thoughts at the time: "That was a waste. Why did we bother?" The cobra did not impress me as being very smart.

Originally Posted by Check Essential

I think you are undervaluing your professional skills.
Your expectations have been lowered.
You've got to resist the forces who relentlessly seek to convince you that an airline pilot's profession and his career earnings are worth less in this day and age just because oil is a volatile commodity and airline managers have questionable competence.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Two things about DPA. They so far have very little support and are no where near having enough cards to call for a election. The cards they have now are starting to expire so they have to reenlist those individuals. I know at least two people who filled out cards but wont refile them after seeing that DPA did not accomplish any of the tasks they laid out in their timeline.

The other important point is that the next contract will more then likely be the most intensely political airline contract ever negotiated. The successes we achieve or don't achieve will be decide far more at the political level behind the scenes in DC then at the negotiating table. APA has finally realized how important that aspect is which is why they have enlisted the help of ALPA. If you think DPA can be spooled up and ready to go with all the needed contacts, money and political knowledge by this time next year then I have a couple of bridges to sell you.

Originally Posted by NuGuy

Heyas,

ALPA won't do anything about the RAH issue. The legal horsepower comes from national, and national wants another potential 2,500 members from RAH 2-3 years down the road, and won't do anything to disturb that.

We really need our own section 1 counsel like the AirTran guys.

Nu

Originally Posted by tsquare

blah blah blah blah... yeah.. ya'll went on strike.. BFD.

Originally Posted by satchip

I don't assign value to my professional skills, the market place does. It's not really oil and management incompetence that has impacted our career earnings. The biggest factor is deregulation. In a regulated market carriers were guaranteed profits and had little competition on routes. That market no longer exists.

As to our management's competence or lack there of, very few managers could effectively navigate today's pseudo regulated market where government has an ulterior motive and plays favorites. Ex, LGA slot swap.

I'm the second highest paid 4th year 737 pilot in the US. How is that not fairly compensated? Could it be more, sure. But it ain't gonna be 50% more, at least here in Literalville.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

That's funny on so many levels.





I haven't voted... yet.

I want to vote for President of DALPA. If Slowplay runs, I might vote for him. I just want the right to vote for the top so that changes go top down not bottom up.

That would allow for change and a direct voice. If we see nothing mention or done about the STS for RAH then I'm fine with either the DPA or IBT as in a "can't be any worse."

Originally Posted by Luftwaffe

Why don't you call your rep's or call Delta pilot Rick Dominguez, Scope Chairman, and ask him your specific questions. Two other posters have previously posted the following…
“CONCLUSION - The Board finds that Chatauqua, Shuttle, RA, Frontier and Lynx are operating as as a single transportation system (Republic Airlines et al/Frontier) for the craft or class of Pilots for representation purposes under the RLA. As detailed below, the former Midwest Pilots are included in the single transportation system” and
"Republic Air Holdings has a single seniority list, but operates under separate FAA certificates at each airline. The FAA certificate determines a scope violation. The MEC will publish information on this later in the week." This is much like Mesa had done with Freedom, aka past precedent.
While you or I or anyone else may not like it, it doesn’t violate our scope clause for now. Scope continues to be monitored closely by Delta pilot volunteers that feel the same way you do and don’t want our scope clause violated.