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Old 06-26-2006, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cass
I understand that ( please correct me if Im wrong) the reason that scabs are so despised is the betrayal that is felt by the guys who hold the strike line when the scabs sneak off to work after agreeing to stand together with the strikers. It essentially destroys the unity or" brotherhood" and then management laughs in your face.
Is it the betrayal that hurts most?( or am I missing the point? )
Judas sold out for only 30 pieces of silver. Then he hung himself in shame....
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:41 PM
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Apart from the messy adoption process we went through when U.S. Airways absorbed the Winston-Salem Boys Flying Society (aka original Peidmont), and other nuisances like an overt anti-military bias exhibited by some management pilots and training department types, there were only 3 things that I found distasteful during my 11 year tenure with good, ole UnSafe Air. Not necessarily in order...the seniority system, a bedrock foundation of the union (ALPA) code that, by definition, allowed for advancement of many talentless aviators, and stiffled merit and ability on the cross of date of hire and/or one's SSN. Scabs, for the oft-stated and obvious reasons, and because their presence in the industry fostered an almost pathological reaction from those who worried about such things. Somebody mentioned dignity earlier, and that word cut both ways. In all my years of jump-seating, I ran across only 1 guy (a beat-up looking NWA type) who checked his little book...as a Captain I never did, I could've cared less...but I always felt that this NW Captain surrendered some of his dignity by this action. Airbus...the bane of commercial aviation. U.S. Air was an early sucker into the "free" airplane, "free maintenance" bonanza. Having flown Boeing and Douglas, you sensed that these Buses weren't built to last...they still aren't. Hell, even the trusty old F100 felt much more solid, and flew like an airplane should. As I said, there were lots of minor irritations, but these 3 stick out as fundamental in my mind.
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Old 06-26-2006, 11:16 PM
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I don't know wtf i would say if I were jumpseating, and the capt checks his handy-dandy scab book and starts looking for my name.

What a disgrace.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:21 PM
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I don't know wtf i would say if I were jumpseating, and the capt checks his handy-dandy scab book and starts looking for my name.

What a disgrace.
If you look like you're 45-60 and you are flying to ATL (EAL) or HOU (CAL) and you don't have your ALPA card, well expect me to check my book....Feel free to deboard and fly with someone else. If ya pass my check; well welcome aboard my jet, feel free to sit wherever there's a seat!
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:48 PM
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I don't know wtf i would say if I were jumpseating, and the capt checks his handy-dandy scab book and starts looking for my name. What a disgrace
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Originally Posted by reddog25
If you look like you're 45-60 and you are flying to ATL (EAL) or HOU (CAL) and you don't have your ALPA card, well expect me to check my book....Feel free to deboard and fly with someone else. If ya pass my check; well welcome aboard my jet, feel free to sit wherever there's a seat!
I scanned what the guy handed me, usually the license, medical, ID badge. Don't even remember seeing anybody drag out their ALPA card, hell lots of jumpers were IBT members that we had LOAs with. As the event I cited was my sole experience with this crap, I will say I was insulted by my NWA bud checking his book. Thinking back on it now, he looked like the type...undignified.
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Old 06-27-2006, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
If you look like you're 45-60 and you are flying to ATL (EAL) or HOU (CAL) and you don't have your ALPA card, well expect me to check my book....Feel free to deboard and fly with someone else. If ya pass my check; well welcome aboard my jet, feel free to sit wherever there's a seat!
Well said.
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Old 06-27-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
If you look like you're 45-60 and you are flying to ATL (EAL) or HOU (CAL) and you don't have your ALPA card, well expect me to check my book....Feel free to deboard and fly with someone else. If ya pass my check; well welcome aboard my jet, feel free to sit wherever there's a seat!
45-60. . . I think I pass.
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
If you look like you're 45-60 and you are flying to ATL (EAL) or HOU (CAL) and you don't have your ALPA card, well expect me to check my book....Feel free to deboard and fly with someone else. If ya pass my check; well welcome aboard my jet, feel free to sit wherever there's a seat!
What and not check UAL to IAD, ORD, LAX & JFK?

At one time UAL had more almost as many Scabs on property as we did.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:33 PM
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i'd cross a picket line. i don't owe you anything.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2dotslow
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I scanned what the guy handed me, usually the license, medical, ID badge. Don't even remember seeing anybody drag out their ALPA card, hell lots of jumpers were IBT members that we had LOAs with. As the event I cited was my sole experience with this crap, I will say I was insulted by my NWA bud checking his book. Thinking back on it now, he looked like the type...undignified.

It was probably me...did you enjoy your ride you ungrateful sh1t
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