Question:

Do you think the best way to solve the unity, and scope issues are to be 1) More divisive and 2) to either throw the regionals out of ALPA or create our own union which will not keep the regional airlines in line?
The regionals within ALPA KNOW they cannot go after our flying or they will lose and lose big time. They will lose our financial support and furthermore know that no attack on one of the mainline carriers PWA's/ CBA's within ALPA would be allowed.

Do you see a RJ pilot running for the top spot within ALPA? Wonder why?

Sure send the regionals packing thinking that they would not get their money from somewhere else. (ATA) Lets look at some unintended consequences first. Doing this would allow regional airlines to go after a mainline's flying or try to circumnavigate their flying and Section Ones all together, by signing deals with the alliances. Do not think it could happen, press to test.

 

Those arguments have been made for years now and ALPA has only gotten more deaf. It's all about counting the cards now. Arguments are over.

Carl

 

I Ran... Not Walked My Card to The Mail Box............

Let Them Table This Membership Resolution.....

Delta Pilots Association
www.delta-pilots.org

 

This should at least be a wake up call to the palace guard in Herndon....When you have secretaries making more money than a 737 FO the priorities of the organization need to change. It seems to me that placing maximum emphasis on returning mainline wages and work rules to traditional levels is needed and I don't see it happening. And I agree with the post that ALPA is rapidly turning into an RJ union and one look at who produces the dues money should serve as a reminder to ALPA needs to "dance with the one that brought you".

 

Maybe we could get another thread going that would get comments from pilots that are part of a one-pilot group union? How well they like it, advantages vs. disadvantages, etc...? Who all are on their own: AA, SWA, UPS, __?

 

http://www.delta-pilots.org/

If they want credibility, they need to tell us who they are.

It looks like a perfectly honorable, above-board, by the book attempt at presenting the Delta pilots with a viable alternative to our current representation. The founders have no reason to hide. They are doing us all a badly needed service.

Remaining anonymous only creates suspicion and hesitation.
For this effort to succeed, a trusted leader is going to be required.
The Delta pilots aren't going to change unions based on a website.

I think we should support this organization. Choice is a good thing. Even if they fall short, it will serve notice to ALPA National that they need to address the serious conflict of interest in their structure and the bloated cost of running the operation in Herndon.

As it stands, the Delta pilots are not getting our money's worth out of our dues.

 

Excellent post, ACL. Spot on!

 

All very good points made by many ppl. I would should suggest watching what the candidates running for National say as well. Maybe the course will be changed, maybe it will not.

I just state, be careful about unintended consequences about actions that are not well thought out. Emotion can be a very dangerous thing.

Read my first post.

 

What interests are diometrically opposed?

Better Pay?
Better Work Rules?
Safety?

 

Scope

You cant effectively protect mainline jobs while also working to expand the regionals. Conflict of interest and the only way to fix it is to get all flying done by 1 pilot list for the said major. Whipsaw must stop.