For all of the salaries, what actual concrete positive effects have been produced in the past year?

 

From the 2010 Bureau of Labor Statistics for work done in Washington DC, page 64:

Executive Secretary - Mean hourly wage = $22.68. Average weekly hours = 38.8 for a full time employee.

Let's just make it an even 23 bucks per hour and a 40 hour work week. That works out to $47,840 as the aveage salary of an executive secretary in Washington DC. Not $100,000. $47,840.

Carl

 

THANKYOU SIR! Melanie Howey, Supervisor, Delta MEC...$112,040.00. When I have a question, I usually ask T, Sailing, or FTB. These guys never ask for money...and they are almost always right.

 

Is that what her W-2 says of are you quoting the financial reporting which details all benefits, salary, and expenses reimbursed?

Edit: I see the number you are quoting, but I am curious what "Gross Salary" means. Is that just income, or income and benefits?

 

It's just gross salary. Benefits and other items are listed in separate columns.

Carl

 

Looking through the list I see Elaine G pulled down $164,902. Never once heard a Northwest pilot say anything bad about her or her pay. She made a full $60,000 than the current Benefits Specialist does. She actually made more than most of the staff lawyers on the list below her. Why no uproar on her?

 

Nobody's talking about whether one particular person is doing a good job at his or her position. We're talking about the level of pay which is above the norm. These exact same positions outside of ALPA pay far less. Look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics to see for yourself.

Why that is the case is a fair question. Why a benefits specialist makes more than a 757 Captain is another fair question.

Carl

 

Yes it is and the answer is simple really. You are worth what you negotiate, no more, no less.

And if that doesn't say enough about our current representation, I have no idea what does.

 

This is precisely why pilots call this the Detroit Pilots Association. When the DPA talks about a generic office worker there is a real person attached to that. The pilots on the regular forum were very concerned about Elaine not keeping her job after the merger. To a fence sitting fool like me it sounds like you are saying that certain ALPA employees are okay and others aren't -> especially if they worked for NWA. It might not be intentional but this forum doesn't do well for color.

On the flip side, I'm seeing less in the other argument on pay. There's something like 27 ALPA carriers right? Bruce Y. works for all of them. That sounds like a pretty good savings to me. $14,066 per ALPA carrier vs paying the whole sum you'd pay to have a dedicated law firm full time even when you aren't using them.

If the current DPA law firm became exclusive to DPA (and AICA)(and AMFA)(and the Labor & Employment Law, Contract Interpretation & Negotiation, Entertainment and Intellectual Property Law, Real Estate, Energy, Utility Law, Commercial Litigation and Arbitration, Corporate & Insurance Law, Immigration and Naturalization Law, Transportation (Maritime/Airline) & Administrative Law, Matrimonial and Family Law... clients)(and the staff who are fluent in Spanish, Dutch, Afrikaans, French, Greek and Japanese) they would be billing the DPA (and all these other clients) at the full rate would they not?

What's more fiduciary? Sharing one law firm who only does airline labor law or paying for one exclusively that supplements their business with other law.

Do you really expect me to believe that SSM&P doesn't pay their lawyers and partners top dollar for their work? We'd be paying the same amount to lawyers we do now, probably more. Put your conflict argument aside and at least concentrate of who's going to get all the money we might save by being independent. If we are going to focus on how much lawyers get paid then you should at least point out that probably won't change at all and that cuts off a pretty large chunk of the LM2.

 

Exactly. In this case, if Melanie held a number at Mother D, she would be at $133 per hour. It's our money...if yall think this is acceptable so be it. Out of curiosity, I went to the list and started w/ the lowest paid six-figure income...then went up. Fraternally H.