By W2, huh. So the SWA guy junior to you who flies more and makes more than you would be senior after the SLI? The Law of Unintended Consequences...

 

I know, right?

Exactly right.

No matter how it turns out, if his upgrade date expectation is one day late than he thought it should be, he'll crab about it for years.

Lets review:

SWA career expectation: 737 CA
AAI career expectation: 737 CA

Apparently.

All the "salary" argument is a red herring to conceal the fact that what those who espouse it want to staple the AAI guys.

 

Exactly!

And according to McCaskill-Bond there won't be a staple. The panel of arbitrators have legal guidance to follow as well as precedent in other SLIs. I don't think they would even consider integrating via W-2 earnings, as there is no precedent for that.

My "gut" tells me that the DAL/NWA SLI methodology was fairly well accepted by both sides, and the arbitrators know that. They also know of several SLIs that didn't go very well. I think they are likely to choose (with minor modifications) a basic model that worked.

I will be shocked (it's happened before!) if there are SWA F/Os senior to Air Tran captains (assuming a stove-piped list).

 

Just wondering. Is the SWA "Luv" culture of arrogance and elitism taught in indoc. or does it evolve naturally once one starts making more money?

Unbelievable.

 

Wow, alot of SWA haters here. Lots of posts here talk about how no one at airtrain will lose their "seat" with this acquisition and also numerous posts about the only relevant thing is "career expectations".

I seem to recall that just a few short months before the acquisition was announced (May 2010) 98 percent of airtrain pilots weren't so happy about their career expectations and were willing to risk everything including their jobs and the bankruptcy of their company. 96 percent of airtran pilots participated in the vote. Seems nearly unanimous - highly unusual in any voting. Things must've been pretty bad there to prompt such a unanimous and dire response.

AirTran pilots give union leaders power to call a strike AirTran pilots step closer to strike - eTurboNews.com

I don't recall airtran management conceding anything with the airtran pilots after this announcement either.

Seems pretty relevant to this discussion about "career expectations".

 

I'm guessing SWA is your first and only airline.

 

Well I have been at 1 other and a Fractional. CA at both. I guess I should have demanded to be at my first CA date of hire then. Oh well! Its working out just fine for me. Like I said. These discussions here are useless. We will all have to wait and see. Until then its only speculation. Fire away SWA haters. There sure are some ugly self deserving people on here though.

I for one will welcome arbitration. Especially after talking with my Rep, the MC and a few others. SWAPA has a very good case and everyone will be handled on its own merits. Good luck. Heres to seeing the trannies on the road. Sorry if some get their panties in a wad over trannies.

 

I don't understand why you want to make it about me. This is a discussion. I didn't attack anyone. I stated a fact to add to the discussion. Let's not talk about me - just a suggestion.

 

You are mischaracterizing a strike vote in a way that shows you don't understand the process.

UPS and Fedex also have voted to strike in the past decade, does that mean they do not not have viable career expectations?

 

Pilots were unhappy with their contract. They voted to strike. Strikes can destroy companies and careers. A strike vote is a serious expression of dissatisfaction with your "career expectations".

Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure how much you want to read into it. Just a simple statement that seems very relevant to this discussion.