VX applying question
07-21-2011 | 03:41 PM
#141
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Face it, there is NOTHING to stop VX from cutting pay whenever they want or need to. Everyone assumes pay will go up. It could just as easily go down.
I am quite sure that the good folks flying at VX did not take the job with the thought that they were going to intentionally undermine the airline industry. I'm sure that they realized that their first responsibility was to provide for their respective families, and that they would have to try to work to better the aviation industry from the inside of VX instead of complaining about VX from the outside.
If you're going to prostitute yourself, don't do it for peanuts.
Its pretty sad when someone who is intelligent enough to hold an ATP thinks all he/she can do is fly for a living.
07-21-2011 | 06:13 PM
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Of course they didn't. But the simple fact is THEY ARE. Instead of finding other work (FAA, Jeppesen, or a thousand other aviation related jobs) they sold themselves to VX for substandard wages/benefits.
If you're going to prostitute yourself, don't do it for peanuts.
And where are these thousands of other aviation related jobs. Obviously news of the recession and terrible economy over the last four years or so has not reached fishfreighter land.
Looking at a side by side comparison, even ten year A320 captain pay at Delta is not close to $50/hr more than Virgin. Where are you looking at your figures, narrowbody pay at UPS and FedEx?!
Too bad I am on your ignore list, you may actually learn something. But ignorant people like to ignore truth and facts. Which of course is why ignore and ignorant share the same root.
07-22-2011 | 05:23 AM
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"And where are these thousands of other aviation related jobs. Obviously news of the recession and terrible economy over the last four years or so has not reached fishfreighter land."
I hear ya NE. I had one of those other jobs between my last airline and here. Sim instructor for a really sweet biz jet. I am now making twice my sim job salary and working about half as much. Thank God I lowered myself for this sub standard job!
I also thought about applying at CAL before coming here, but I couldn't justify $28k/yr and no medical for the first 6 months. FSI offered $70k and medical from day one plus 401K matching to start.
Then there was the seniority issue. I would have never made it to the left seat at CAL before retirement. No shame in staying an F/O, but CA is where the $$ is.
I hear ya NE. I had one of those other jobs between my last airline and here. Sim instructor for a really sweet biz jet. I am now making twice my sim job salary and working about half as much. Thank God I lowered myself for this sub standard job!
I also thought about applying at CAL before coming here, but I couldn't justify $28k/yr and no medical for the first 6 months. FSI offered $70k and medical from day one plus 401K matching to start.
Then there was the seniority issue. I would have never made it to the left seat at CAL before retirement. No shame in staying an F/O, but CA is where the $$ is.
07-22-2011 | 06:50 AM
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At the peak of the unemployeement in this country ALPA stated that almost 36% of the professional pilots in this country were without jobs. I'm pretty sure that there was not enough other aviation employeement to cover all that. Plus as one of those people, with a masters degree and a clean employement record I made a serious try to find work outside of the industry. I could find nothing that paid more than 40k a year. And I looked hard. We as pilots like to think our skill set is valued in the world. But employers only see no applicable experience.
07-22-2011 | 07:10 AM
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Urgh! I can't believe I let myself get dragged into this argument!
07-22-2011 | 03:23 PM
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Fixed it for you.
Plus as one of those people, with a masters degree and a clean employement record I made a serious try to find work outside of the industry. I could find nothing that paid more than 40k a year. And I looked hard, but my pilot ego wouldn't allow me to accept a non-flying job that paid so little. However, I WILL fly for that kind of money.
Seriously, its too easy to read between the lines you all use to justify stabbing the rest of us in the back.
07-22-2011 | 11:57 PM
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<insert fish/fubis tired and predictible comeback here>
07-23-2011 | 12:59 AM
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Don't worry about fish. He's the highest paid 73 pilot in America, sorry, the world.
Thanks to his beloved ALPA he is able to belittle everyone else. He is awesome. He never even took concessions during the down turn in the economy .
Oh hang on he did.
Thanks to his beloved ALPA he is able to belittle everyone else. He is awesome. He never even took concessions during the down turn in the economy .
Oh hang on he did.
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