forgot to bid

His comment was the BOD wants all the MD90s including the Saudi and they want 717s. White papers and conversations about "can you make this happen" and the fact decisions aren't made in a vaccum, I'll take his word that that's exactly what's being contemplated.

JetPilotMike

Did they make that -900ER cockpit any roomier, or are you still stuffed in there like a can of sardines? A transcon in that thing is miserable....

Too Tall

Everyone is complaining about the 737-900er on here, I know from a pilots prospective it is not even close to the 757 and from a passenger perspective its not as comfortable as an A320/321, but It will be a money making machine for Delta. It will have a very low if not the lowest fuel burn per seat mile of any Delta plane, and there are a lot of great routes for it that don't require the performance of the 757. We will still have a lot of newer 757s left for anything the the 900er can't accomplish. At only 100 orders that still leaves 100 NB replacements Delta still needs. They found an immediate fix for aging planes, and the 100 deliveries starting in 2013 will allow them to sit back and and wait and see if the geared turbofans pan out on efficiency. I'm sure they got a smoking deal on them as well, so I say it is a great decision.

Flying Monkey

I guess 'cause I'm a glass half full kinda guy, I'm just glad we will (?) have airplanes on order, and not just parking some 75's. Never been up front on a 73 either, though, so nothing to complain about yet.

Geez Too Tall, your position is worse than mine. Oh wait.....

PilotFrog

Well Luckily 2013 deliveries will be in line with our contract update. If we dont recognize that the 900er is a 757 replacement and dont negotiate a good pay rate then we are shooting our own foot.

TOGA LK

Since when have any Delta aircraft orders (787's, MD90's from afar) actually resulted in a net gain of flying for Delta pilots? Answer, they haven't! I wouldn't tie in a purchase of 737-9ers that may or may not happen with upgrades. With our new joint venture buddies down south, out west and the worse scope in the industry, maintaining what flying we currently have will exceed what I am expecting (don't confuse this with what I am hoping for).

forgot to bid

Not to mention, if the 100 739 order is true, how many current aircraft are they aiming to replace with 100? Is it less than a 100, that's awesome, is it more? Not so great.

I'll celebrate the 737-900 order, and I mean celebrate it, if I find out we bought then for $30M or less ($50M off sticker) and they're growth aircraft. I'll celebrate that even if it means a poor performing aircraft that will take too long to turn at a gate and be rather miserable in the back. Fair?

forgot to bid

You know, someone reminded me of something here. We actually kind of have an LGBP thing going on the low end of the pay tables.

If you look at Section 3 the EMB-190=CRJ-900 in pay.

But the EMB-190 seats 100 passengers and the CRJ-900 seats 76. Not a whole lot until you realize one is 76% of the size of the larger aircraft. That's equivalent to a 738 equaling the DC95 or 763ER equaling the MD90/738.

Of course we did put the 777 and 747 together and one seats 70% of the other. But their were political reasons for that and the same probably can be said about combining the EMB190 and CRJ900, politically neither will ever be here.

alfaromeo

We hired 700 guys in 2007 and 2008 to fill 757, 777, and 737 additions.

Ferd149

Where does this leave the 787.........ok stop laughing, serious question for those who seem to be in the know.

The 787-8 order was paid for, ok at least financed. Then, we pushed our positions back for the better 787-9 (a smart move IMO).

Then we got increased MTOW from Boeing for the 757/767.

Is the 737 order a separate issue? Is all of this tied together somewhere.

Ferd <------really starting to get confused