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Old 12-30-2011 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Whatever helps you feel higher and mightier....
Not higher, certainly not mightier.

Just wiser.

By the way, how did the LGA/DCA slot swap work out for "mainline growth"?

That's what I thought.
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Old 12-30-2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
If this is the best they've got.....I mean, really, WHAT DO they teach those guys in Harvard Business school these days???
Well, Look at all the finance failures, housing market crash, and other industry collapses. There are more dumb as#es out there with college degrees. I do believe there is something wrong with colleges nationwide. Take a look at the way higher education has evolved into a mega for profit factory. High ranking College presidents have salaries in the millions, but are not held accountable..

Not all, but a goodly amount of them.
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Old 12-30-2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted
I do believe there is something wrong with colleges nationwide.
The only business ethics they teach in college these days is to ride your bike to work, and never eat meat on your lunch break.
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Old 12-31-2011 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted
Well, Look at all the finance failures, housing market crash, and other industry collapses. There are more dumb as#es out there with college degrees. I do believe there is something wrong with colleges nationwide. Take a look at the way higher education has evolved into a mega for profit factory. High ranking College presidents have salaries in the millions, but are not held accountable..

Not all, but a goodly amount of them.
Could it be the individual students fault? What courses/majors are they choosing?

I submit it starts in high school. Economics, civics and history are barely even touched upon there. And no one anywhere knows anything about statistics.

Yeah, there are less-than-desirable people out there running large corporations, but you won't find all that many out there run by high school grads either.

It's never a simple answer. There wasn't this kind of vitriol when things are good. Never is. When things turn around everyone is going to defend their CEO as a genius. Look at SWA.
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Old 12-31-2011 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Then you could very well enjoy a few more years of wage and seat progression stagnation. Lines in concrete get you lines in concrete.
Scope is everything! Pay can and will be taken away at management's convenience. Haven't we learned....ANYTHING?
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Old 12-31-2011 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Most of us junior Delta guys were hired at regionals when they were regionals with turboprops and were along for the RJ revolution that mainline guys of old let happen.

5500 NWA guys and 2000 junior guys outnumber the Delta guys of 1992 that you referred to. There won't be any more growth in the DCI fleet at Delta. I hope you have fun LYAO.
Yeah.........you go get'em tiger !
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Old 12-31-2011 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
And lines in the sand get erased by the whims of the weather.
Or by the whims of Lee Moak. There has never been a line he would not erase.

TO is just a junior Moak.
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Old 12-31-2011 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
Or by the whims of Lee Moak. There has never been a line he would not erase.

TO is just a junior Moak.
You mean during Moak's thow:

The North Atlantic JV protections for DAL pilots' flying via a 6-party agreement. (Ask United pilots how well their trans-Atlantic flying is protected; ref. Aer Lingus/United venture)

Large RJ totals were reduced from separate NW and DAL maximums in the merged contract.

The company can't use "fuzzy math" for large RJ's...DALPA calculations have to be used.


Yeah, Lee Moak hated scope.

RJ explosion happened under DW and his predecessor. Can you point me in the direction of any scope regression at an ALPA mainline since DW left office?
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Old 12-31-2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
You mean during Moak's thow:

The North Atlantic JV protections for DAL pilots' flying via a 6-party agreement. (Ask United pilots how well their trans-Atlantic flying is protected; ref. Aer Lingus/United venture)

Large RJ totals were reduced from separate NW and DAL maximums in the merged contract.

The company can't use "fuzzy math" for large RJ's...DALPA calculations have to be used.


Yeah, Lee Moak hated scope.

RJ explosion happened under DW and his predecessor. Can you point me in the direction of any scope regression at an ALPA mainline since DW left office?
Lee Moak was the one who raised DCI seats from 70 to 76. He was the one most responsible for this move.
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Old 12-31-2011 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Lee Moak was the one who raised DCI seats from 70 to 76. He was the one most responsible for this move.
I didn't realize that Moak was at NWA when Compass was created...
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