Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

If that happens, someone give Slowplay an aspirin, find a Nitroglycerin patch and call and ambulance for the resulting cardiomyopathy.

In fact, while your at it, call one for me

Originally Posted by hoserpilot

Confirmed. The time agreed to is contingent upon ratification. The sim time, for now, obviously will be used to get instructors up to speed for next years arrival of the a/c. The sims will stay at Alteon/Boeing and use our instructors. The exact hours of sim time reserved were not mentioned. This thread is not a rumor but a 100% verified fact. The best part is my source only drinks my Miller Lite and not my good stuff.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Where are those Sims? (please say SEA, please say SEA, please say SEA, or SAN) Can you imagine the sweet deal the IP's will have if they are out of base?

Originally Posted by NuGuy

Hi Jack,

That's the only way they can vote. It's the only way they get any kind of money now. Even a six month delay has financial consequences, which is why they are so wild eyed.

Even a %20 raise a year from now does very little good to a person in their last 3 years, and this is the specific demographic for which this TA is tailored.

Note the long delay in any kind of DC bump. %14 vs %15 to these guys means very little. There is no practical way for it help.

OTOH, a reduction in staffing does help. The increase in ALV will let them fly more. These guys typically will pump the white slips (which are relatively a sure thing, rather than wait by the phone for a GS), so the reserve ALV+15 will not affect their method of schedule filling.

Scope issues are the last thing on their minds. As is sick time...(although, they are getting more).

If I was in my last 3 years, and money is all that was on my mind, and I had no interest in leaving a place better than I found it, this is exactly the kind of TA I'd want, and the sooner, the better.

Nu

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

The 717s may come anyway without the TA, but then they will fall under current, lower DC9 pay, and they will still add more 76 seat jets, park some older 70s, and keep inefficient 50 seaters. Maybe we'll get a new contract in a couple more years? Nobody really knows.

Originally Posted by hammer189

Yea, but I bet I move up to a higher paying seat faster under the current contract as opposed to the POS TA that has a small raise, huge scope give back and huge reserve give backs.

Originally Posted by XtremeF150

It is funny how it is always ok to spend 20 million or so each on DCI airframes but they always want to keep mainline airframes down to several million each....always used stuff for us.

Originally Posted by tsquare

Wouldn't ANYTHING for a DC9 driver... you.. be "new"?

But seriously what do you care? Personally I would rather have 2 used 747s than 1 new one...

Originally Posted by Kilroy

The ASA/Expressjet are the ones who will end up with the 717. That's why the 2B credit and that's why Delta pilots will vote this TA in.