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Old 03-06-2013 | 05:25 AM
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Congratulations! Your second post and you're already a keyboard commando. Look forward to some more of your posts Uncle Jed.....
Thank you for proving my point about overreactions. Did it occur to you that people, passengers and crew alike, including some flight attendants carried small pocket knives for many years prior to 9/11? In that time, how many instances were there of passengers going nuts and engaging in slashing attacks out of hundreds of thousands of flights since the dawn of the airline industry. Please give specific examples if you can find any. As a flight attendant, your presence is not what is going to get the aircraft down safely. A flight attendant being injured or killed is unfortunate, but no more so than any other employee of any other company, and therefore should have no more "special" protections than the people who work in public jobs without any kind of security screening whatsoever. That obviously isn't the case with pilots since if they are injured or killed at the controls, it puts the entire aircraft at risk, hence the reason the reinforced door isn't going away anytime soon.
Old 03-06-2013 | 06:14 AM
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Thank you for proving my point about overreactions. Did it occur to you that people, passengers and crew alike, including some flight attendants carried small pocket knives for many years prior to 9/11? In that time, how many instances were there of passengers going nuts and engaging in slashing attacks out of hundreds of thousands of flights since the dawn of the airline industry. Please give specific examples if you can find any. As a flight attendant, your presence is not what is going to get the aircraft down safely. A flight attendant being injured or killed is unfortunate, but no more so than any other employee of any other company, and therefore should have no more "special" protections than the people who work in public jobs without any kind of security screening whatsoever. That obviously isn't the case with pilots since if they are injured or killed at the controls, it puts the entire aircraft at risk, hence the reason the reinforced door isn't going away anytime soon.
Just ignore her and let her go complain in the Meow Mix forum.
Old 03-06-2013 | 06:53 AM
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I think this is all a moot point anyway because it's the flight crew-and ultimately the captain-who decide what is and is not allowed on their plane. Not the TSA.

If flight crews are uncomfortable with items brought on board their plane (like golf clubs, hockey sticks, etc.) have them checked in to people's baggage underneath.

Not a whole lot of room to be swinging golf clubs in those cabins
Old 03-06-2013 | 06:57 AM
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What about in the movie theatre, in the mall, or at a restaurant?
In a movie theater or restaurant, I'm not the only person flying the plane surrounded by passengers. In our operation, pax are not allowed to bring carryons onboard, so I don't worry as much about the other items you mentioned, since they would be pretty hard to stuff down your pants without anyone noticing.
Old 03-06-2013 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ForeverFO

My favorite irony...

Pilot: "What exactly am I going to do with that butter knife?"

Truly Stupid Airhead: "You might use it to take control of the airplane."

Pilot: "Think long and hard on what you just said, Einstein."




Old 03-06-2013 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 9kBud
In a movie theater or restaurant, I'm not the only person flying the plane surrounded by passengers. In our operation, pax are not allowed to bring carryons onboard, so I don't worry as much about the other items you mentioned, since they would be pretty hard to stuff down your pants without anyone noticing.
Hey 9kBud you must not fly any "ack air". You'd probably have a heart attack when you saw the plumbers and electricians bypassing TSA and walking out with their tool belts and toolboxes. It's amazing that in 23 years of operation (more if you count PBA) nobody has gotten a screwdriver in the ear from a meth-crazed carpenter.
Old 03-06-2013 | 10:24 AM
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I've flown Ack Air, no thanks.
Old 03-06-2013 | 10:56 AM
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Really? Is this worth getting all lather up about? A trained bad guy can kill you as effectively with a pocket knife as with bare hands.

Average Joey-bag-o-donuts can do as much damage with his bare hands as with a pocket knife.

So what's the big? I think we should we should ***** and moan about more important things, like: "Now I need to go buy a 7-round capacity firearm when I visit NY because some morons wrote legislation restricting more" (and yes, even Law Enforcement).

That's worth the lather.
Old 03-06-2013 | 12:02 PM
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Really? Is this worth getting all lather up about?
I don't see anyone getting lathered up about it. I see people ridiculing it, and deservedly so.

Wait, I take that back. There was one FA who is lathered up about it. The pilots in this Airline Pilot Forum are simply mocking it.
Old 03-06-2013 | 01:39 PM
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I'm still trying to imagine what kind of knife this is:

"Knives with blades that are 2.36 inches (6 centimeters) or shorter and less than a 1/2 inch wide will be permitted on U.S. airline flights as long as the blade is not fixed or does not lock into place."

What?

Granted, I'm a gun guy, but I don't get it.

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