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dogismycopilot 09-01-2013 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1474619)
Or we could just get back to talking about the movement at JB if any. Speaking of, how long can one expect to be on reserve?

September is my fifth full month off IOE, and I held a line in August. I got kicked back to reserve in September, but should be a regular line holder by the holidays.

Right now, BOS 190 is probably the quickest way to a line, with JFK 190 and 320 not far behind.

pilotpayne 09-01-2013 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 1474607)
Are we just about ready to close this thread and let it die?

Ive been reading it for a while and it has digressed to essentially 2-4 folks with differing opinions going back and forth. Neither will see the others side.

Might be a better candidate for a PM instead of this waste of a thread? Will any of you miss it?


I think it is very dead.

pilotpayne 09-01-2013 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 1474636)
As long as the other Majors are hiring, JetBlue will continue to lose Pilots. A lot of guys want to leave JB and should be in with a very good chance. This will help new guys move along.


Don't expect to see much growth but the industry defying attrition will be significant.


JJ

Much growth? attrition sure but there is growth, don't just make stuff up.
We are growing I think only spirit is growing faster....

alvrb211 09-01-2013 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by dogismycopilot (Post 1474647)
September is my fifth full month off IOE, and I held a line in August. I got kicked back to reserve in September, but should be a regular line holder by the holidays.

Right now, BOS 190 is probably the quickest way to a line, with JFK 190 and 320 not far behind.

Make no mistake, your best indicator of movement is the hiring at other Majors. Many have already left or are waiting on class dates elsewhere. If the hiring continues at the Majors, you will move up. I think hundreds are going to leave so you should be in good shape.


JJ

WARich 09-01-2013 07:56 AM

So can someone post some bullets on the reasons why dudes are leaving JB?

alvrb211 09-01-2013 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 1474654)
Much growth? attrition sure but there is growth, don't just make stuff up.
We are growing I think only spirit is growing faster....


Do you have the year over year growth ASM's handy?


JJ

alvrb211 09-01-2013 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1474659)
So can someone post some bullets on the reasons why dudes are leaving JB?


Pilots have been leaving JB for years dude. And, in large numbers.


But, we are "not supposed" to cite the reasons why because it upsets the "believers".

If you don't fit the "culture" you are seen as one who doesn't align himself with JB's model.


In other words, if you don't like below average compensation all across the board, coupled with zero protections, you're not a good fit.


Onslaught and rationalizations from Bluejuicers coming in 3....2....1



JJ

WARich 09-01-2013 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 1474670)
Pilots have been leaving JB for years dude. And, in large numbers.


But, we are "not supposed" to cite the reasons why because it upsets the "believers".

If you don't fit the "culture" you are seen as one who doesn't align himself with JB's model.


In other words, if you don't like below average compensation all across the board, coupled with zero protections, you're not a good fit.


Onslaught and rationalizations from Bluejuicers coming in 3....2....1



JJ

So once again, what are the reasons pilots are leaving JB? Please no *itch session, just straight facts. And I don't want to hear this pay and non-industry standard bs you guys have been moaning about for the last 40 pages........besides that, why are dudes leaving? (unless that's the only reason I guess)

aldonite7667 09-01-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1474689)
So once again, what are the reasons pilots are leaving JB? Please no *itch session, just straight facts. And I don't want to hear this pay and non-industry standard bs you guys have been moaning about for the last 40 pages........besides that, why are dudes leaving? (unless that's the only reason I guess)

Not trying to be snarky. If you've read 40 pages and do not understand then you are definitely JetBlue material. You don't want to hear complaints about JB but want the reasons why people are leaving JB? They are one in the same.

alvrb211 09-01-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1474689)
So once again, what are the reasons pilots are leaving JB? Please no *itch session, just straight facts. And I don't want to hear this pay and non-industry standard bs you guys have been moaning about for the last 40 pages........besides that, why are dudes leaving? (unless that's the only reason I guess)


It's simple! Other carriers compensate much higher!

Nothing motivates people like money!


JJ


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