I think tx about covered that.

What's next shares don't count as compensation?

Thnx, I was looking for this info on BP.

I don't think he knows what kind of "growth" the company is planning on. EVIDENTLY, they don't care about the brand or culture. The very fact that they are happy to put a JB code elsewhere is all the proof anyone should need that the mighty $ is all they care about.


Culture??????


HaHaHaHa!


Failed models??????


Isn't it VERY STRANGE that JB are code sharing with business partners they have slammed as being "Failed Models"??????


He wont be upgrading. This progression through seniority he dreams of wont happen. He'll be watching other Airline's carrying JB passengers while his comp is gutted further.


A fool and his money are easily parted.


JJ

I remember in Jan 2011 or 2012 we got the management sob story about how there would no raises for ELT. The company communication explained how this hardship had never occurred at JetBlue but was necessary. Two weeks later there was a filing with the SEC outlining the million dollar stock grants. Unreal.

EXACTLY AS I SAID. There bonuses from link one total 1,300,000 million shares. At 7 dollars a share (being generous on that one) you get a TOTAL exec bonus of 9.1 million dollars. That is less than 25% the cost of an airbus. Wow, you proved yourself an idiot.

And to be honest, they would get a bonus if we got higher pay anyway, maybe 20-30% smaller, which would only be 1-2 million dollars less bonus. So, I have to ask, if we raise pilot comp by 30%, which will cost 100-120+ million, management MIGHT get 1-2 million less, where does the other 98-118 million come from? Where is it going now, since it is not going to executive bonuses?

Um, no he didn't. Did you even read the links? Can you use a calculator? It is EXACTLY as I said. There bonuses can NOT even buy 20% of a new airbus, and the portion of their bonuses that would be affected by us getting a raise would total about 2-4% of what our raise would cost.

TX proved you guys wrong. Well, that is if you can use a calculator.

I don't like the codeshare stuff entirely, but I am not anti-union. That said, most union companies codeshare. And a union wouldn't force the company to buy A330s to fly to Dublin.

No open time in FLICA in sept, a trough month, wow I'm so shocked.... Wait until you get the vacation system these guys are demanding. Be ready for no open time 3x as often.

I didn't say a union would slow growth. I said raising pilot CASM 30% (or legacy pay) would slow growth. Growing is expensive, the money has to come from somewhere. And despite what alvr says, labor expenses are not free, and they do matter.

I am not defending managements actions. I am thoroughly disappointed with them.

You were looking for info that JB total executive bonuses were only 9 million dollars, to prove me wrong that it couldn't buy one airplane, or didn't amount to 2-4% of the cost of raising pilot compensation by 30%?

Congratulations. You sure showed me.

No skippy, $1.2 million in one month! Multiple that over the years and you could buy several airplanes! The links I provided only cover a couple of years.