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Old 12-14-2015 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Actually do stress over Hogan... they use it as a deal breaker. "I like classical music..." or "I prefer to read a book over watching TV..." Really?!

"I would enjoy skydiving." So what if you actually did 15 years ago, but haven't done it since? Your only options are true or false...

If they were using Hogan as a supplement to give you a better screening and line of questions at the interview, then I'd say don't worry.

Using a true/false line of questions as end-all-be-all without a follow-up, they've sent some outstanding candidates to Delta, SWA and AA.
Absolutely correct. I didn't get past the Hogan but got the interview and CJO from Delta 4 months later. FWIW, I know of guys who re-took the Hogan 12 months after not getting through it the first time and made it on the second attempt and are now on at UAL. Crazy test!
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Old 12-16-2015 | 03:48 PM
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United CJO.

Thanks to Keith at Centerline, his prep was invaluable. Highly recommended!

Also, Greg & Mary at ECIC were lots of help. Thanks so much!

I can't wait to get started. Definitely on cloud nine.

KC-135
2550 TT
480 TPIC
14 internal recs
4 yr degree

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Old 12-16-2015 | 04:00 PM
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SWA CJO
3,100 TT
1,800 PIC/IP
Military, heavy transport, IP/EP
No 737 type
Masters 3.8
4 Internal LORs
29 Aug 15 applied
29 Sep 15 interview invite
9 NOV 15 interview
16 DEC CJO
15 Jul 16 - Listed date available
Emerald Coast prep
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Old 12-16-2015 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingJman
SWA CJO
15 Jul 16 - Listed date available
Now that's impressive. A CJO seven months prior to your terminal leave/active duty separation/retirement date. Nice work & congrats!
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Old 12-16-2015 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CODs4ever
Now that's impressive. A CJO seven months prior to your terminal leave/active duty separation/retirement date. Nice work & congrats!
I was seriously shocked to get the invite so far out. But there was another in my interview group in the same boat, and he got the CJO as well. Maybe a smart move by SWA to reach so far forward, while others are building seemingly large pools. Anyway you slice it, I couldn't be more psyched!
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Old 12-17-2015 | 05:22 AM
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SWA CJO
~8k Total(all civilian)
121 LCP
Union Volunteer
Lots of community service that wasn't court ordered
11/4 interview
12/16 CJO
No word on class date, most likely early February.

6 weeks from interview to CJO. Good luck to all.
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Old 12-18-2015 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
Yep. Didn't get the call by the time I retired, picked up with regional and got the call to interview with JB within three months of retiring, now in Phase II. Didn't have my jet/121 boxes checked till I got on with the regional, had all else.
How much do internal recs count? I have a cousin that's a junior captain at AA and several Army buddies that are senior-ish FO's (747/777) at UAL. All have offered letters and have offered to "walk" my resume into HR. Is that shooting for the stars, or does it actually carry some weight?
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Old 12-18-2015 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by armypilot
How much do internal recs count? I have a cousin that's a junior captain at AA and several Army buddies that are senior-ish FO's (747/777) at UAL. All have offered letters and have offered to "walk" my resume into HR. Is that shooting for the stars, or does it actually carry some weight?
Having internal recommendations is very important. How they are delivered and who they are from is less important.
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Old 12-18-2015 | 03:28 PM
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Since they're not looked at until the final step at AA the value is suspect.

First you have to get selected by the computer. Accepted for, and pass , the online interview. Pass the F2F interview. Then the entire package gets reviewed by the final selection team. That's when the LOR's are reviewed.

There's a suspicion that there some 'top down' selections are being made. All indications are that it's MUCH smaller than it was in the past.
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Old 12-20-2015 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by armypilot
Slimothy,
This is one of the best replies I've gotten, thank you. My biggest concern is not having thousands and thousands of hours and not having any heavy or jet time. This gave me a little bit more hope. I'll keep my fingers crossed!!
Glad I could shed some light! It's definitely an interesting journey. Best of luck!
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