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Old 12-30-2015 | 03:04 PM
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Sliceback, I agree with you on meeting the requirements. I just figured that if they saw a First Class medical in the system and saw that I was still flying 121 it would be seen as one of those things i would need to have updated prior to the interview. I'm not sure why I thought that. I will definitely hit the conferences.

CODs4ever, since I fly as an FO (SIC) I can fly with a current Second Class. If I were the PIC or a required crew member over 60, I would have to renew every six months as well. I fall under (2) below.


§61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration.
(a) Operations requiring a medical certificate. Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section, a person—

(1) Must hold a first-class medical certificate:

(i) When exercising the pilot-in-command privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate;

(ii) When exercising the second-in-command privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate in a flag or supplemental operation in part 121 of this chapter that requires three or more pilots; or

(iii) When serving as a required pilot flightcrew member in an operation conducted under part 121 of this chapter if the pilot has reached his or her 60th birthday.

(2) Must hold at least a second class medical certificate when exercising:

(i) Second-in-command privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate in part 121 of this chapter (other than operations specified in paragraph (a)(1)(ii) of this section); or...
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Old 12-30-2015 | 04:31 PM
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Damn. Guess I better brush up on my FAR/AIM prior to my interview.
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Old 12-30-2015 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrjiggs287
Sliceback, I agree with you on meeting the requirements. I just figured that if they saw a First Class medical in the system and saw that I was still flying 121 it would be seen as one of those things i would need to have updated prior to the interview. I'm not sure why I thought that. I will definitely hit the conferences.

CODs4ever, since I fly as an FO (SIC) I can fly with a current Second Class. If I were the PIC or a required crew member over 60, I would have to renew every six months as well. I fall under (2) below.


§61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration.
(a) Operations requiring a medical certificate. Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section, a person—

(1) Must hold a first-class medical certificate:

(i) When exercising the pilot-in-command privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate;

(ii) When exercising the second-in-command privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate in a flag or supplemental operation in part 121 of this chapter that requires three or more pilots; or

(iii) When serving as a required pilot flightcrew member in an operation conducted under part 121 of this chapter if the pilot has reached his or her 60th birthday.

(2) Must hold at least a second class medical certificate when exercising:

(i) Second-in-command privileges of an airline transport pilot certificate in part 121 of this chapter (other than operations specified in paragraph (a)(1)(ii) of this section); or...
My 1st class Med was expired. Renewed it and within a week got emails from 2 majors.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Julio
My 1st class Med was expired. Renewed it and within a week got emails from 2 majors.
Good to know, Julio. Congrats and thank you!

CODs4ever...no worries I had to look it up again myself just to make sure.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Julio
My 1st class Med was expired. Renewed it and within a week got emails from 2 majors.
Expired as in more than 6 months old?

Or expired as in what's applicable to the operation to be conducted/age, etc...?

As an applicant for the majors, should I be going to my AME every 6 months for a medical, regardless of age?
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Old 12-31-2015 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EMScapt
Expired as in more than 6 months old?

Or expired as in what's applicable to the operation to be conducted/age, etc...?

As an applicant for the majors, should I be going to my AME every 6 months for a medical, regardless of age?
Based on what I have read here, if it shows as being more than 6 months old, the computer will drop you from consideration.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mrjiggs287
Congrats to all the new hires!!!

Can someone please give me a clue what I am doing wrong? Here are my stats:

2800+ TT
2400+ MEL
1650+ PIC (all heavy military)
750+ IP/EP
Masters w/3.9
BS w/ 3.7
Currently flying 121 for a regional making peanuts. Apps have been in to the Majors and Legacy guys for two years. Finally retired from the AF this summer and have been flying 121 for about 4 months. Several internal recs at DAL, UAL, AA and SWA. One friend sent an email to HR at DAL over 8 months ago. I have heard nothing but crickets. No "fix it" email. No "TBNT" emails. Nothing at all.

I will say I have not been to any hiring events yet. I planned to go to the last WIA but I ended up being in indoc at my regional during the conference. I will hit every single one I can from here on. But, being on reserve with no seniority will make that hit or miss.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
You're not doing anything wrong. Your flight time isn't really competitive with ual,dl,aa. Your best bet is to slug it out a while at the regionals and build your time.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EMScapt
Expired as in more than 6 months old?

Or expired as in what's applicable to the operation to be conducted/age, etc...?

As an applicant for the majors, should I be going to my AME every 6 months for a medical, regardless of age?
I specifically asked a United recruiter about that at an ALPA meet-and-greet and was assured that updating every 6 months wasn't necessary if you were young enough for the 12 month requirement. The person I spoke wasn't 100% sure at first but researched it and called me after the event to follow up. Delta invited me to interview 11 months after my medical date. YMMV.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
You're not doing anything wrong. Your flight time isn't really competitive with ual,dl,aa. Your best bet is to slug it out a while at the regionals and build your time.
I beg to differ. His numbers are just fine and pretty typical for a military background. Lots of ex-mil pilots getting hired with those numbers or less. Building time at a regional will just increase his odds of getting hired even though the pay sucks and is a slap in the face to anyone who meets ATP minimums.
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Old 12-31-2015 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CODs4ever
I beg to differ. His numbers are just fine and pretty typical for a military background. Lots of ex-mil pilots getting hired with those numbers or less. Building time at a regional will just increase his odds of getting hired even though the pay sucks and is a slap in the face to anyone who meets ATP minimums.
For a 20 year mil guy they are low. I was a 10 year mil guy with those stats and was told by recruiters they are low. Look at the averages delta posts and you will see they are below average. For a fighter guy they are great but for a heavy guy they are low comparatively speaking.
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