Known Crewmember Change..
12-18-2014 | 02:13 PM
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Um, how would that ruin it for the rest of us? I don't get it. What rule is that person violating? Lighten up, Francis.
12-18-2014 | 02:54 PM
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You can still bring BYOB. You just officially have to get a working FA to serve it to you. True story.
12-19-2014 | 01:05 AM
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One particular bit of clarification I'm waiting on is with KCM random checks and the resulting non-uniformed crew member being subject to X-Ray screening. I think it's important that crew members have assurance of maintaining that exemption.
12-19-2014 | 02:40 AM
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A point of clarification: isn't the uniform only required currently to bring liquids through the security checkpoint? There is no requirement to remain uniformed once past the checkpoint. I know Delta has a lot of extra BS in their FOM regarding uniform and KCM rules, but the vast majority of carriers just leave it to the TSA for the basic requirements.
12-19-2014 | 02:57 AM
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A point of clarification: isn't the uniform only required currently to bring liquids through the security checkpoint? There is no requirement to remain uniformed once past the checkpoint. I know Delta has a lot of extra BS in their FOM regarding uniform and KCM rules, but the vast majority of carriers just leave it to the TSA for the basic requirements.
Delta requires that you only wear the uniform to and from work or while working. I think most airlines have that in their FOM.
12-19-2014 | 05:44 AM
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You are incorrect. The TSA does random gate checks. If you are found out of uniform at the gate with liquids or other banned items you will get violated. You have to be in uniform for the flight. Several flight attendants and even a few pilots have been caught at my airline.
Delta requires that you only wear the uniform to and from work or while working. I think most airlines have that in their FOM.
Delta requires that you only wear the uniform to and from work or while working. I think most airlines have that in their FOM.
Any person inside security can purchase liquids, including alcohol, once they're past the checkpoint. Are you saying a crew member will get some sort of TSA violation for "liquids" if they're searched at the gate out of uniform?
12-19-2014 | 07:20 AM
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I'm almost 100% certain he's incorrect. Many Delta pilots believe all the extra requirements placed upon them in their FOM are TSA requirements when in fact they are solely edicts from Delta management. For example, they can't wear their uniform and access KCM to non rev (not work related), whereas most airlines have no policy like this (and neither does TSA). It's important in these discussions to differentiate between TSA requirements and company specific policies.
12-19-2014 | 07:28 AM
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12-19-2014 | 09:06 AM
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I'm almost 100% certain he's incorrect. Many Delta pilots believe all the extra requirements placed upon them in their FOM are TSA requirements when in fact they are solely edicts from Delta management. For example, they can't wear their uniform and access KCM to non rev (not work related), whereas most airlines have no policy like this (and neither does TSA). It's important in these discussions to differentiate between TSA requirements and company specific policies.
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