Before You Consider F9...
03-22-2015, 04:42 PM
#42
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Yes, they spend that kind of money. My 121 supplemental spends close to train a MD-80 FO.
Originally Posted by Barley
Well I really doubt they spend anything close to $40k on a newhire and if they want to keep good people then there's a solution that doesn't involve #1 paying well below their competitors, #2 using a training contract to deter turnover, and #3 hoping dangling a quick upgrade carrot will make folks forget the first two things.
03-23-2015, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Yeah, go to southwest and wait 20 years for an upgrade...
Last edited by Barley; 03-23-2015 at 06:39 AM.
03-23-2015, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Barley
lol, yes please. Do you think any F9 captain comes close to the compensation and benefits available to any SWA FO? I don't know what your situation is, but I need to build financial security. Upgrade is always nice, but I'm not going sell-out my future just to play captain.
03-23-2015, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I can tell you that the average frontier captain currently makes 180,000/year. That's from the payroll dept. I can't speak for southwest other than to look at their pay rates. also, keep in mind that the future will almost assuredly include much better pay rates at frontier.
03-23-2015, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I can tell you that the average frontier captain currently makes 180,000/year. That's from the payroll dept. I can't speak for southwest other than to look at their pay rates. also, keep in mind that the future will almost assuredly include much better pay rates at frontier.
03-23-2015, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I can tell you that the average frontier captain currently makes 180,000/year. That's from the payroll dept. I can't speak for southwest other than to look at their pay rates. also, keep in mind that the future will almost assuredly include much better pay rates at frontier.
03-23-2015, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo
That's pretty optimistic considering Frontier is owned by the same entity as Spirit and they had to go on strike to get a contract (raise). But hey you never know.
Anyhow, the point I'm trying to convey is that when choosing an airline for a career, you have to look beyond the current contract. Careers are long, contracts are short. Ours is amendable in 2 years, I don't retire for more than 30 years. I look at frontier as an airline with room to grow, and a business model that likely will become a mainstay in the domestic market.
03-23-2015, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Barley
lol, yes please. Do you think any F9 captain comes close to the compensation and benefits available to any SWA FO? I don't know what your situation is, but I need to build financial security. Upgrade is always nice, but I'm not going sell-out my future just to play captain.
Which is it? or is it both?
