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07-13-2015, 07:02 PM

#31

Window_Seat

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Originally Posted by Judge Smails

Right...so you're saying you're a douchebag. Got it.

Guess that one hit close to home.

07-13-2015, 07:07 PM

#32

ovrtake92

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I can only speak for spirit but compare our contract to the all mighty legacy carriers when it was signed. I'll wait....not a whole lot better were they?niw if we sign a sub par contract this year then your points will be fair but until then you can't compare our contract from 2010 to the current legacy pay scales.

07-13-2015, 07:08 PM

#33

dn_wisconsin

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat

Standards are a great thing to have. I just think professional pilots doing what WE ALL do should set the bar higher. I don't think that settling for the LCC's is the right thing to do. I've read though some of the Spirit thread, nobody thinks they deserve the legacy wages, I don't see why not? Packed with reasons so settle.

"Nobody thinks they deserve legacy pay."

I'm at spirit. I want legacy pay. In fact I'm 99% sure almost every post over there says "I want pay parity."

But I guess you missed those huh? Can you ride my Jumpseat and tell me how I should fly too? You are an absolute peach.

07-13-2015, 07:09 PM

#34

ULLI

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat

Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Virgin America are really 3%? Nahhhhhhhhhh. Regional mentality where a successful career is based on future growth. Meanwhile, I'm sure a majority of the FO's would leave to a legacy in a heartbeat. Flying around a 220 seat 321 is pretty sweet until you find out you aren't breaking 80k a year. But that tail is so high on the walk arounds, it feels awesome!

Funny how you forget how few years ago those cheap airlines along with their cheap pilots were making more than legacy pilots were. And i understand that legacies were in post bankruptcy contract, hence that is why F9 rates were better than most. Now F9 is operating under post bankruptcy contract and can not do anything till negotiations open up. You should know that since your airline has filled ch11 in the past.
NK also negotiated pre all the mergers (i think dl and nwa completed the merge after the contract was signed).
also you are 100% correct that we dont want to get paid more...not.

troll on now

07-13-2015, 07:10 PM

#35

Window_Seat

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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin

I never knew someone could suck this much. You are just awesome. Do you legitimately hate yourself?

I haven't seen one logical reply from a poster in this thread yet....ouch mr airline pilot forum guy, now I hate myself even more

07-13-2015, 07:13 PM

#36

ovrtake92

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat

Guess that one hit close to home.

The only thing that hits close to home is a fellow pilot that is so uninformed and spiteful. There's a lot of good experienced pilots here at NK and I'm sure F9 that could bring you up to speed on current and past events so you can have a real conversation with us.

07-13-2015, 07:13 PM

#37

Window_Seat

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Originally Posted by ovrtake92

You got a point. I hope you guys get paid, I really do. If the business model is so great then we should be catching up to you. Prove me wrong.

07-13-2015, 08:54 PM

#38

DENpilot

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat

You got a point. I hope you guys get paid, I really do. If the business model is so great then we should be catching up to you. Prove me wrong.

Prove you wrong? Oh gee, I will just ever-be so disappointed in myself if we cannot win your approval.

07-13-2015, 09:43 PM

#39

Hugedouche

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat

I haven't seen one logical reply from a poster in this thread yet....ouch mr airline pilot forum guy, now I hate myself even more

If you would like a "logical" reply, we have 7-8 year Captains making more than most of the 20 year AA guys. Its all about work rules. In addition, rates are not everything, living in a base or being home with your kids 22 night a month (like i am) is well worth the 400k diff that I "could" make being as a double breasted turkey.

Spirit has tons more head-room to play with, Delta is already playing cards to the market that shows them in a dimmer light.

I have 25 years left, and mark my words, the legacy carriers will Chapter 11 at least twice between now and then and it will be a wash.

Logical?

07-13-2015, 10:06 PM

#40

Rainbows

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Originally Posted by Window_Seat

I haven't seen one logical reply from a poster in this thread yet....ouch mr airline pilot forum guy, now I hate myself even more

Holy cow I want to wipe that stupid smug smile right off that stupid face. Thank the lord the rest of the delta pilots aren't as big a douchebag as this guy. This little weasel is not worthy of the term pilot, and was quite possibly picked on in high school. Let it out little man, get back at all those guys who gave you wedgies in high school.