Deny NAI failed, given final approval by DOT
12-04-2016, 06:26 PM
#141
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Lot's of great regional pilots who aren't "qualified" that simply don't give a damn what you think....The second class citizen routine is growing old. Funny how you don't mind riding on us when you want to get home.
12-04-2016, 06:27 PM
#142
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Those of us in the regional business have been dealing with "race to the bottom" for years while you mainline guys have enjoyed huge raises....Sorry if we don't have sympathy for you...Maybe you should have had some concern for us.
Did someone force you to take that job -- and then stay there??
12-04-2016, 06:27 PM
#143
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Agreed on "ALPA's failures" but the fact that you're "enjoying this" is not cool John. This WILL affect all of us. Its not a mainline vs RJ thing.
12-04-2016, 06:30 PM
#144
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Dude, I slogged it out at the regionals for 6+ years. All the time working my butt off to land a job at a legacy. Spare us the working-class hero routine.
Did someone force you to take that job -- and then stay there??
Did someone force you to take that job -- and then stay there??
12-04-2016, 06:36 PM
#145
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
The "regionals" should have never existed. However mainline greed and arrogance created them. They sold the scope to prop up senior pay and retirement after deregulation. The regionals reached out to the mainlines to fix the mess. They were crapped on by the mainline MECs. Spare me the "union brother BS"...That isn't how ALPA works.
12-04-2016, 06:39 PM
#146
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Those of us in the regional business have been dealing with "race to the bottom" for years while you mainline guys have enjoyed huge raises....Sorry if we don't have sympathy for you...Maybe you should have had some concern for us.
12-04-2016, 06:39 PM
#147
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
Comair got a decent contract after their strike. I remember gladly paying into the strike fund. Were you part of the whipsaw given to Delta to run them into the ground? The Comair flying didn't go back to the mainline in those days. Where did it go?
12-04-2016, 06:41 PM
#148
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Originally Posted by sleeves
The best way to eliminate the race to the bottom at the regional level is to increase mainline scope and do away with the regionals. I will never vote yes for a contract that relaxes scope.
12-04-2016, 06:42 PM
#149
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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Not if we fly code share for foreign carriers who don't limit us and pay us more.
You're proposing that the regionals are going to code share for foreign carriers.
So somewhere, orders need to be placed or jets need to come out of the desert to fly these things into supposed hubs such as FLL to feed NAI.
The regionals can barely staff what they are flying as it is. You think they can pull this off?
If anyone codeshares with a foreign carrier, it'd be more likely to be Spirit, Allegiant, jetBlue, et al.
The foreign carrier certainly isn't going to waste their time messing around with a regional airline for support when they have demonstrated they can barely support themselves.
12-04-2016, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NMuir
Wrong...
As lower level more simple jobs gets outsourced, that frees up resources to work on other higher level things.
The CEO of a small business might take out his own trash. However when the company grows he probably ends up paying someone else to do it because his time is more valuable. Countries are the same way.
When lower level tasks can be done more efficiently, they will be, market forces demand it.
As lower level more simple jobs gets outsourced, that frees up resources to work on other higher level things.
The CEO of a small business might take out his own trash. However when the company grows he probably ends up paying someone else to do it because his time is more valuable. Countries are the same way.
When lower level tasks can be done more efficiently, they will be, market forces demand it.
Google H1b visa abuse. Educate yourself then we can talk. Last time I checked I don't do a simple job, and yet I'm looking at potentially lower wages due to globalization, as do engineers, scientists, computer programmers and on, and on.
Also, see this page for how globalization has been treating US workers so far.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...-harder-charts
Also google cognitive dissonance while you are at it.
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