Mesa TA Passes
07-15-2017 | 04:46 PM
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2. If that were the case, then no one from Freedom A or anyone at Go Jet would ever be hired. Got plenty of proof to the contrary on this also.
3. Majors don't give two craps about regionals. They gave the flying away in the first place because it was "beneath them".
Regardless of where this TA went, it was going to have 0 impact on ones ability to get hired out of Mesa.
07-15-2017 | 05:09 PM
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Believe whatever you want. If you really want to make less than your peers and undercut the rest of the industry then by all means have at it. It is a free country. Just don't be shocked when the "upgrades express" gets de-railed through stagnation.
07-15-2017 | 06:33 PM
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Not every airline still does it but there are places where select line pilots are part of the hiring process.
Believe whatever you want. If you really want to make less than your peers and undercut the rest of the industry then by all means have at it. It is a free country. Just don't be shocked when the "upgrades express" gets de-railed through stagnation.
Believe whatever you want. If you really want to make less than your peers and undercut the rest of the industry then by all means have at it. It is a free country. Just don't be shocked when the "upgrades express" gets de-railed through stagnation.
Commutair
Endeavor
Piedmont
Trans States
It's a short list, but proves there are people making less then I am. Why don't you go after them now.
07-15-2017 | 06:43 PM
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With n = 3, a randomly chosen TA has a 1 in three chance of being the right one - 33%. If we skip the first, and find that second is better than the first, then the probability goes up to 50% - now it's TA #2 vs. TA #3. Skipping TA #2 in hopes of three being better only give you a 33% chance of #3 being the right choice. It's the Secretary Problem - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem
Also kind of like the Monty Hall problem - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhlc7peGlGg
Also kind of like the Monty Hall problem - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhlc7peGlGg
07-15-2017 | 07:21 PM
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Er, no it's not? Aside from them all flying 50 seaters, the only one with an arguably lower pay rate is Endeavor, and that's offset by the massive $23,000 bonus every single pilot gets annually. But hey, you finally make slightly more than a Great Lakes pilot, so there's that.
07-15-2017 | 07:27 PM
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And what year pay would that be unless you are a 9th year FO(TSA topped out 6 year 50 seat rates are higher than your fo rates until then) or 20 year captain(within a $1) of TSA topped out 18 year rates you aren't and we won't even begin to talk about work rules. If you compare them to the 51-76 seat TSA rates(in the contract not currently used for planes on property but the type you are flying the numbers are even further apart)
07-15-2017 | 08:51 PM
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You're comparing 50 seat pay to 76+. Apples to apples, Mesa pilots lose. And I've heard from a first hand source, JO has called at least one airline when they hired too many Mesa pilots (asking them to not hire his pilots). I don't care if you believe me, just look at the numbers. (This includes percentages) How many of your friends have gone to United or American lately? Do the math; out of 1200+ pilots, what is the percentage? 1-2%. At that rate, Mesa pilots only need another 30-40 years at before they are called at that rate. Keep your head in the dirt. Glad I'm LAMA. Wish the best for those that voted 'no'.
07-16-2017 | 06:27 AM
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I am a former Mesa pilot and I am glad I got out when I did. Although it would have been nice getting 300% for flying. It is interesting to me the time I was at Mesa JO kept saying they had no money and he would not put the airline in trouble by paying pilot a penny more. Now he is going to pay more so were is the money come from or were is the money now for the engines which are due? Looks like a Republic move. Bankrupcy by the end of summer! 
07-16-2017 | 06:43 AM
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Sadly, you might be right. All my FO friends said that they were voting no, as where most of the new year old FO's. The new captains I spoke to also said they were voting no. So it's probably the ole Sturges that drove the vote. Even management confessed to the fact that market forces were driving the need to close a deal. National ALPA should do an analysis on what went so wrong in buyers (pilot) market. I hang my head in shame. What has happened to our profession..
07-16-2017 | 08:26 AM
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Sadly, you might be right. All my FO friends said that they were voting no, as where most of the new year old FO's. The new captains I spoke to also said they were voting no. So it's probably the ole Sturges that drove the vote. Even management confessed to the fact that market forces were driving the need to close a deal. National ALPA should do an analysis on what went so wrong in buyers (pilot) market. I hang my head in shame. What has happened to our profession..
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