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Old 05-20-2019 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
Well you partially correct, but there’s nothing to be excited about here unless you plan to go fly the old beat up 737’s at night....

What I would consider exciting is getting PDC and D-ATIS. Something that’s actually very useful and resembles a real airline. Charts+ is neither, unfortunately.
PDC Won’t happen - we have ads b out only.

D-atis I would love but where’s the cost benefit? That’s all MESA cares about. Having it though would have caused an earlier diversion for me a whole back that might have paid for it. Who would we contact to get it?

737s -something might happen on cargo and it might not be at night. Amazon increasingly needs to move things faster than overnight. But we can’t staff what we have. What makes you think we would cannibalize our pilots for cargo? That’ll be a whole separate deal.
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Old 05-20-2019 | 10:08 AM
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PDC Won’t happen - we have ads b out only.

D-atis I would love but where’s the cost benefit? That’s all MESA cares about. Having it though would have caused an earlier diversion for me a whole back that might have paid for it. Who would we contact to get it?

737s -something might happen on cargo and it might not be at night. Amazon increasingly needs to move things faster than overnight. But we can’t staff what we have. What makes you think we would cannibalize our pilots for cargo? That’ll be a whole separate deal.
Uh what does PDC via ACARS have to do with ADS-B? That’s an ACARS function.
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Old 05-20-2019 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
Uh what does PDC via ACARS have to do with ADS-B? That’s an ACARS function.
My understanding of PDC was wrong. It’s not part of ADSB IN. So yes we should have it!
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Old 05-20-2019 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
PDC Won’t happen - we have ads b out only.

D-atis I would love but where’s the cost benefit? That’s all MESA cares about. Having it though would have caused an earlier diversion for me a whole back that might have paid for it. Who would we contact to get it?

737s -something might happen on cargo and it might not be at night. Amazon increasingly needs to move things faster than overnight. But we can’t staff what we have. What makes you think we would cannibalize our pilots for cargo? That’ll be a whole separate deal.
*Mesa. Not MESA. It’s not an acronym. You wouldn’t say DELTA, would you?
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Old 05-20-2019 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX
*Mesa. Not MESA. It’s not an acronym. You wouldn’t say DELTA, would you?
It’s for EMPHASIS. You missed that I didn’t capitalize ADS-B and ATIS.
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Old 05-20-2019 | 11:44 PM
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None of us were angry when we did our first walk around with our IOE Captain. Scattergood and Pat, God rest his soul were mine and they have never complained. Don't expect anyone to improve your situation. Believe it or not no one cares about you more than you. Do something about it, don't expect Mesa to fix it, they have shareholders to deal with
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Old 05-21-2019 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenChicken
None of us were angry when we did our first walk around with our IOE Captain. Scattergood and Pat, God rest his soul were mine and they have never complained. Don't expect anyone to improve your situation. Believe it or not no one cares about you more than you. Do something about it, don't expect Mesa to fix it, they have shareholders to deal with
Wholeheartedly agree. I’m content with my position and progress at Mesa. The people I deal with daily are awesome.
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Old 05-21-2019 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ChickenChicken
None of us were angry when we did our first walk around with our IOE Captain. Scattergood and Pat, God rest his soul were mine and they have never complained. Don't expect anyone to improve your situation. Believe it or not no one cares about you more than you. Do something about it, don't expect Mesa to fix it, they have shareholders to deal with
Pat was also one of my IOE captains. I miss his sarcasm. It was an extremely sad deal what happened.
I completely agree with the sentiment in this post. Mesa is no thrills, cut every corner crap operator that is more deserving of being a 36th NW st company. No, I take that back, some of those companies would be an improvement.
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Old 05-23-2019 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
I been using them for almost two months I got used to them. I guess you can say I was content with them. I don't like them. But they worked. I had issues and I emailed NAVblue and and sent ASAP reports. They corrected them. There were some things I liked and a lot I didn't. I Gabe it a fair chance. Either way I was good.

I just don’t like the fact that we as pilots need to be their QA finding all these errors. All just to save the company money?... might as well just use NOS plates.
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Old 05-24-2019 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by brigadeaviator
I just don’t like the fact that we as pilots need to be their QA finding all these errors. All just to save the company money?... might as well just use NOS plates.
NOS plates would be much easier and more correct than Charts+. The issue is there is international flights. We would still need Jepp or Charts+ unless NOS covers all of our international airports.
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