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Old 05-17-2019, 02:20 PM
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Charts+ is on hold til March 2020! Good news!
Jepp renewal date.
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Jepp renewal date.
In other words, Jepp will probably continue. Our CP in charge of this Charts+ mess can’t suck it up that their idea to get more cheap failed...
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In other words, Jepp will probably continue. Our CP in charge of this Charts+ mess can’t suck it up that their idea to get more cheap failed...

Do you really think the decision is in the hands of Ian?
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Do you really think the decision is in the hands of Ian?
No. We save millions but it’s obviously a bigger deal to switch. We have a lot of documents to update. Anyway I’m assuming here that Jepp contract isn’t month to month. So I think we had no choice. We could go sooner but we are paying for Jepp until March.

The deal is still on and the charts and software continue to improve. Those that actually set them up and use them are generally content with them.

We are switching all software over to nav blue offerings. Not just the charts.
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Do you really think the decision is in the hands of Ian?
It may not be his decision, but he sure defends those POS charts.
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No. We save millions but it’s obviously a bigger deal to switch. We have a lot of documents to update. Anyway I’m assuming here that Jepp contract isn’t month to month. So I think we had no choice. We could go sooner but we are paying for Jepp until March.

The deal is still on and the charts and software continue to improve. Those that actually set them up and use them are generally content with them.

We are switching all software over to nav blue offerings. Not just the charts.
I have yet to meet one pilot here who has used these charts and is actually content with them. You apparently haven’t spent much time with them, or you have no clue what you are looking at.
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I have yet to meet one pilot here who has used these charts and is actually content with them. You apparently haven’t spent much time with them, or you have no clue what you are looking at.
I been using them for almost two months I got used to them. I guess you can say I was content with them. I don't like them. But they worked. I had issues and I emailed NAVblue and and sent ASAP reports. They corrected them. There were some things I liked and a lot I didn't. I Gabe it a fair chance. Either way I was good.
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I been using them for almost two months I got used to them. I guess you can say I was content with them. I don't like them. But they worked. I had issues and I emailed NAVblue and and sent ASAP reports. They corrected them. There were some things I liked and a lot I didn't. I Gabe it a fair chance. Either way I was good.
Hopefully they keep Jepp until March 2020 and it’s that much less we have to deal with this Charts+ BS.
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I have yet to meet one pilot here who has used these charts and is actually content with them. You apparently haven’t spent much time with them, or you have no clue what you are looking at.
Actually I’ll make the opposite argument. It’s you who haven’t spent time using them IN FLIGHT and you don’t know what you are looking at. With the exception of SIDS and STARS the charts are in many ways superior to jepps. More consistently laid out. Actual tower operation hours depicted. Highlighted missed approach altitude. Easier in air navigation and setup. Auto reverse of route. Cut and paste flight plan. Progressive monitoring numbers.

Mapping of SIDS and STARS is lacking, however this is being corrected. Navigation use in flight is great. Try tapping on fixes and airports enroute for example. A diversion is easy to find info etc. I don’t think YOU have actually given them an in use try.
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Actually I’ll make the opposite argument. It’s you who haven’t spent time using them IN FLIGHT and you don’t know what you are looking at. With the exception of SIDS and STARS the charts are in many ways superior to jepps. More consistently laid out. Actual tower operation hours depicted. Highlighted missed approach altitude. Easier in air navigation and setup. Auto reverse of route. Cut and paste flight plan. Progressive monitoring numbers.

Mapping of SIDS and STARS is lacking, however this is being corrected. Navigation use in flight is great. Try tapping on fixes and airports enroute for example. A diversion is easy to find info etc. I don’t think YOU have actually given them an in use try.
Ohhh boy. The company tools always easily stick out here. The approach charts are an unorganized CF. The app is total crap. It constantly freezes with my iPad Pro with over 10gb free, and iOS 12.2 installed. I’ve done the app updates. I’ve seen this POS system crash more since installing it then I have ever seen with Jepp. Your excuse for defending this stuff is a joke. Reversing routes?! Who gives a damn?! We fly big boy routes that generally aren’t truly reversible anyway. Clicking on an airport on the map..oookkk. You’re too lazy to type in 4 letters and look up what you need? You evidently haven’t flown in Mexico with these much or you’d notice the plethora of fixes missing on the plates.
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