When will training restart
04-08-2022 | 10:44 AM
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04-08-2022 | 11:24 AM
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I was unaware any pilot would care so much about what other pilots do in terms of double dipping on paychecks. You’re gonna be one of those guys when you get on the line. Worry about yourself champ.
04-08-2022 | 12:01 PM
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When will training restart
Fraud is charging for services not provided. In this case the duty is “go home, don’t call us we’ll call you.” Finding a “second job” in this scenario is 100% legal and actually a very reasonable thing to do. Mesa calls back, you decide you like your “second job” better. So you resign since your duties at your first job no longer allow you to hold 2 jobs. Perfectly legal in every way.
04-08-2022 | 02:02 PM
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Fraud is charging for services not provided. In this case the duty is “go home, don’t call us we’ll call you.” Finding a “second job” in this scenario is 100% legal and actually a very reasonable thing to do. Mesa calls back, you decide you like your “second job” better. So you resign since your duties at your first job no longer allow you to hold 2 jobs. Perfectly legal in every way.
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
04-08-2022 | 03:05 PM
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So a person, knowing that there is a strong likelihood that training will be delayed can
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
Dude it’s employment at will. What are they gonna do? Fire you before you quit? Mesa has made its bed they can lie in it.
04-08-2022 | 03:05 PM
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So a person, knowing that there is a strong likelihood that training will be delayed can
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
04-08-2022 | 03:33 PM
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So a person, knowing that there is a strong likelihood that training will be delayed can
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
04-08-2022 | 04:26 PM
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So a person, knowing that there is a strong likelihood that training will be delayed can
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
1) Be hired by Mesa;
2) Go through CTP and ground school at Mesa’s expense;
3) Go to work for another 121 carrier without Mesa’s knowledge or consent;
4) Complete Indoc and systems at the new carrier;
5) While being paid the entire time by Mesa,
is not only “legal”, it is “reasonable”, almost as if Mesa deserves it? I’m sure Mesa would be okay with it because who follows the employee handbook anyway? And being simultaneously employed by two different 121 carriers is nothing for majors to be concerned about when the time to sling apps comes. Cool
Don’t have a dog in this fight, but fraud is a strong word that doesn’t seem to apply: Pilot told to stay home, not asked to perform any work, what they do on their time is their own business. If they’re being paid to not be employed by another carrier, then presumably Mesa could fire them if they discover the pilot violates those (or other) employment conditions.
If a potential employer has an issue, then that is a consequence an employee might face, and it’s their big boy or girl risk to take.
Companies don’t worry much about what’s “fair” or “reasonable” when the time comes: If it’s in their interest, they’ll can you in a second. Enough experience among these posters to have seen that play out, let’s not chastise someone making $3k/month for trying to improve their situation.
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