eaglefly

I'm sorry you had to expend so much time, effort and money to find this out. A little investigation talking to a broad base of pilots would have probably led you to the same conclusion before the hassle.

Best of luck.........you're better off elsewhere.

thrustsetrj200

The first thing that came to mind was that there are thousands of guys/gals sitting at their FBO's SOOOO ready and willing to fill your shoes when the airline starts hiring again. That is extremely unfortunate because we ALL know their mentality. "Will fly for free" just to get hired by an airline. If there was one thing I could do it would be to go around to EVERY flight school and convince all of the CFIs and airline pilot wannabes to GET OUT NOW!!

thrustsetrj200

I find this comment to be BS because I got an earful of what the airline industry was when I was looking to get hired. We all know we are running with blinders on when we apply to the airlines regardless of what we hear. We think "it can't be ANY worse than this CFI job." And we all think we will move up fast regardless of what the "unfortunate" ones have told us who were already in the airlines. We don't think the bull ******* will happen to us. All we know is that we want to fly big shiny jets and that's ALL that matters. So no, I don't think talking to a thousand regional pilots who have been screwed by their airlines would change any minds. We all agree we would learn the hard way and find out for ourselves. Unfortunately this is the end result. A life full of being beaten down by the industry and treated like we aren't worth anything.

AirTrucker

I had two friends advise me to go back to school and pursue my other interest in medicine….after spending all that $$ and time on my ratings I am back in school!! Seeing how things are going I am glad I listened, now one is on furlough from CA (helping him find a job with no luck) and the other has moved closer to the bottom of the list at Piedmont. Despite the economy and the state of the aviation industry are there still allot of people enrolled in flight schools? Do you think “big shiny jet syndrome” will continue to hurt the business? I hope the best for everyone on the street!!

Reds

Mesa is a publicly traded company, not to be a debbie-downer, but here are a few more facts for everyone from the 3/31/09 Q. Best wishes to Mesa pilots.

EDGAR Pro
Notes to the Financial Statements, section 3. Going Concern:
"Delta and the Company have fully briefed the issue on appeal and oral arguments in the 11 th Circuit Court of Appeals were held on January 30, 2009.
If the District Court or Court of Appeals ultimately rules in favor of Delta and allows the termination of the Connection Agreement, management believes they will be unable to redeploy the ERJ-145s in a timely manner, or at the lease rates the Company receives under the Delta Connection Agreement in the event of any re-deployment of such aircraft. As a result, if the Company is not successful in its litigation with Delta, the Company's cash flows from operations and available working capital will be insufficient to meet these cash requirements. The accompanying condensed consolidated financial statements do not include any adjustments that might result from an unfavorable outcome in this matter.
We currently have excess aircraft that are not operating under our code-share agreements and at go! . As of April 1, 2009, we have 37 excess aircraft consisting of five CRJ-200s (previously operated at Kunpeng Airlines), 12 ERJ-145s (previously operated under the Delta agreement) and 20 B1900Ds (previously operated at Air Midwest). We continue to pursue opportunities to sublease our excess regional jet aircraft and sell our B1900D aircraft. Our excess aircraft will have a negative impact on our financial condition and results of operations.
In addition, we currently operate 26 CRJ-200s, 20 CRJ-700s and 10 Dash-8 aircraft for United pursuant to a code-share agreement. Under our agreement with United, we may swap 10 CRJ-200s for 10 CRJ-700s; to exercise this right, we must advise United of the delivery dates for the swap of 10 CRJ-700s by October 31, 2009. Also, under our United agreement, 26 CRJ-200s and 10 Dash-8s can be terminated early by United in April 2010, upon six months prior notice. We have not received notice from United regarding its intentions with respect to its CRJ-200 and Dash-8 fleet. The 26 CRJ-200 and 10 Dash-8 aircraft represent approximately 19% of the Company's revenues. Although we have early return rights for 8 CRJ-200 aircraft flying for United, we have substantial aircraft lease obligations beyond April 2010 on the remaining fleet. If United ecercises its early termination option for the CRJ-200 and/or Dash-8 aircraft, we would be unlikely to place these aircraft in revenue-generating service in a timely manner or sublease these aircraft at the lease reimbursement rates in the United code-share agreement. In the absence of obtaining additional capital through equity or debt financings, asset sales, consensual restructuring the aircraft lease terms and/or similar measures, continuing our agreement with United, or placing the aircraft with another carrier, our cash flows from operations and available working capital will be insufficient to meet our obligations."

GrUpGrDn

It puts the Joe Dirt in the hole! Meaning J.O.

JetJock16

I was more or less talking about the fact that Mesa's US contract is up in 2011. Parker has made it known that he has no intentions of working with Ornstein after their contract expires. I'm also sure that Parker's foaming at the mouth for Mesa to file BK (if DAL’s wins) so that US can "restructure" their contract.

Looking at the near future Mesa's in more than hot water. If any of these three issues unfold; DAL wins the injunction, UAL chooses to take the early termination or US does not re-up with Mesa in 2011 then Mesa's TU.

I truly wish the best for every Mesa pilot.

AirWillie

WOW. Especially about the 36 UA airplanes that could be taken away by next year.

grdprox

Hmm. And then there's this Courthouse News Service


Flight Attendant Dispute Headed to Arbitration


(CN) - In a ruling that hinged on whether a labor dispute was "major" or "minor," the 9th Circuit vacated an injunction barring Mesa Airlines from unilaterally changing the work schedules of union flight attendants.
When the collective bargaining agreements between Mesa and the Association of Flight Attendants expired, the parties negotiated new agreements.
Mesa decided to apply different FAA regulations limiting the work schedules of flight attendants. Under the old bargaining agreements, the airline could schedule its flight attendants according to the federal guidelines for either crew members or flight attendants. But in 2007, Mesa unilaterally changed the applicable regulations.
The union objected, claiming the move violated the Railway Labor Act. It characterized the disagreement as a "major dispute" that required an injunction, which the district court granted.
But Mesa insisted that the dispute was minor, calling instead for binding arbitration.
"We hold that Mesa has carried its burden to show that its action is 'arguably justifiable' by the terms of the existing (agreements)," Judge Fletcher wrote for the three-judge appellate panel.
The dispute is therefore minor and subject to arbitration only, the court concluded.

Reds

Understood, I've heard the same about US Airways from many, but one that I can actually believe because I, personally, haven't heard it straight out of Parker's mouth, maybe others have. As mentioned, I just wanted to offer "a few more facts for everyone". And yes, if BK is filed then all three majors can cancel/restructure the agreements.
Best wishes and cheers