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Old 01-15-2010 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
Why not comment?
Not appropriate. The matter will be resolved internally.

Walk a picket line with McClure? When you were likely in grade school.
I don't care what you did when I was in grade school, I'm asking you if you've done it during this dispute? You roam all over the internet posting under different names pretending to care about the UALPAPAE Unit 1 staff, when in reality, you're just trying to use them for your purpose of attacking ALPA. You don't really give a damn about them. If you did, you'd be walking the picket line instead of running your mouth.
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Old 01-16-2010 | 05:28 AM
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It's about integrity. It's about a union leadership that is doing the same thing to it's employees that they oppose management doing to pilots. It's about treating everyone as equals.

It's about LEC and MEC officers standing up and demanding that it stop. And if the National leadership refuses to do so, holding them accountable.

Maybe that's what the Mesa pilots are [deleted] about, I don't know. Maybe it's because when National insisted they begin assessing themselves since they were a potential merger target and they voted the idea down, they got it crammed down their throat anyway? Maybe it's because the legacies get access to funding (NWA/DAL) and groups like Midwest and now Mesa don't?

It's about integity, [deleted]. About a union I personally care a tremendous amount for, being destroyed by the most inept leadership in it's history. And it's being allowed to continue because the members of it's Executive Board and Board of Directors are too damn busy telling themselves how wonderful and special they are and haven't got the balls to stand up and throw the bums out.

In the end, it will be that phenominal staff and the dues paying pilots who will get left holding the bag. You and others will be standing there with that myopic stare and asking each other, "what just happened?"

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Old 01-16-2010 | 06:28 PM
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Old 01-16-2010 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mwa1
has anyone ever successfully decertified Teamsters...and lived??
Ok. Take two:

UPS Pilots decertified the Teamsters back in the early 90s to form the IPA (Independent Pilots Association). Net Jets did it last year+-. Nobody got hurt. Thankfully.
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Old 01-17-2010 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by UPSAv8tr
Ok. Take two:

UPS Pilots decertified the Teamsters back in the early 90s to form the IPA (Independent Pilots Association). Net Jets did it last year+-. Nobody got hurt. Thankfully.
And under the new leadership at IBT, Amerijet went on strike, got incredible support from across the industry (including IPA...good on ya!!) and a contract.

In the past two months, besides Amerijet, they concluded a new non concessionary contract for the ATN Mechanics, brought back outsourced jobs at UAL, got a TA for SWA employees and added two new pilot groups, Southern Air and Cape Air, who just recertified the Airline Division after the NMB called for a revote due to management interference in last years vote.

Pretty interesting what can happen when you have leadership who is willing to engage management and find solutions that work and is also willing to take it to the mat when necessary.
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Old 01-17-2010 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Wow...deep thoughts bro. Thanks for bringing a lot to the table.
You are welcome, I am glad I could stimulate your cognitive thinking. Are you telling me there are deep thoughts to be had about Mesa? Let me know when you have an insight, I can only speak for myself, but I am certainly looking forward to it.
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