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09-23-2014 | 07:42 AM
#3211
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From: First Officer
Can you please be more specific. How do new hires study the aircraft systems manuals and op specs in training? Are you saying we load huge PDF's on our tablet or something like that? I'm surprised to hear it's ALL electronic.
09-23-2014 | 08:02 AM
#3212
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From: gear slinger
There are no stupid questions for the new guys. Don't be afraid to speak up in class either. I asked some dumb questions in class, like "what is jumpseating" because I honestly didn't know. Good luck!
09-23-2014 | 08:27 AM
#3213
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Not sure how others did it, but I put everything on my iPad so I wouldn't have to carry it around. A number of us shared a Dropbox folder with every imaginable piece of study material - presentations, study guides, checklists, flows, manuals, etc. It worked out well. You can scan to PDF at the printer in the training center.
09-23-2014 | 09:05 AM
#3214
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Yep. My sim partner and I got kind of boned on that one, but in the scheme of things it doesn't seem like a big deal. So long as we don't miss a base award or upgrade by <20 spots...
09-23-2014 | 12:02 PM
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Theoretically speaking, when would I have to be hired/online before the quick upgrade goes away?
09-23-2014 | 12:24 PM
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It's one of those things that's just impossible to know. Educated guesses are possible though. The main problem is we don't know how much flying we'll get in the near future, the distant future, or if there will be another 9/11. Attrition rates aren't high now, and we can assume they'll pick up some, but people will argue how much and when.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
09-23-2014 | 12:29 PM
#3218
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From: ERJ CA
They don't want you studying the systems manual or Ops Specs as a newhire. If they did, they'd give you copies. They'll pretty much spoon feed you everything you need to know to the degree and depth that they want you to know it. Take good notes in class, ask for copies of all the Powerpoint slides, get a study group going and you'll be fine.
09-23-2014 | 01:08 PM
#3219
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It's one of those things that's just impossible to know. Educated guesses are possible though. The main problem is we don't know how much flying we'll get in the near future, the distant future, or if there will be another 9/11. Attrition rates aren't high now, and we can assume they'll pick up some, but people will argue how much and when.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
I think people being hired the second half of 2014 will see an upgrade time of 1.5-3 years. It depends if we get more planes, and there have been rumors amounting to a net gain of ~50 in the next year. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know if the 1.5 year upgrade is sustainable, but I think 2.5 years could be.
And always keep in mind that it is in management's best interest to paint the most optimistic light possible for new hires. New hires are the link between the street and the line, and are more likely to have contacts who are still finishing up flight school/college (high yield recruiting targets). It is imperative for management to convince people sitting in class that everything is wonderful and that everyone will upgrade.
09-23-2014 | 01:30 PM
#3220
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Interesting. As for the E-jet, are new hires being offered the embraer?
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