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Old 10-28-2013 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingsaluki1
I'm sick of people already in the industry looking down on young pilots like me and saying we are what is wrong with the regionals. The regionals is what's wrong with the regionals.

They're not where you should be striving to be at. The majors is the end game and I believe that Mesa will be a great stepping stone to them. So stop arguing about which regional is worse and accept that it is a stepping stone to greater things.

I currently have interviews with XJT and RAH set. I am considering others as well. The decision about going to Mesa is not made yet, but the more I look at it the better it looks for myself and my career
There's a lot of pilots on these forums that just like to hate. Any regional pilot bashing another regional pilot for accepting a job is a hypocrite. Just ignore them. Congrats and good luck. All indications look like you've set yourself for fantastic career progression.

Compass and Mesa are the two best regionals out there right now for career progression.
Old 10-28-2013 | 05:11 AM
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Few questions for guys currently at Mesa, if you wouldn't mind?

1) What is the trip mix like? Are there many day trips and two days, or is it all four day trips? Are they generally commutable?

2) Do you use line bidding or PBS? Do most people just get min days off?

3) I keep hearing this predictions for quick upgrades, but do you think they are likely? Are you seeing much attrition?

Thanks in advance!
Old 10-28-2013 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Fecking EJet
Few questions for guys currently at Mesa, if you wouldn't mind?

1) What is the trip mix like? Are there many day trips and two days, or is it all four day trips? Are they generally commutable?

2) Do you use line bidding or PBS? Do most people just get min days off?

3) I keep hearing this predictions for quick upgrades, but do you think they are likely? Are you seeing much attrition?

Thanks in advance!
Using CLT as example for Nov:

34 day trips
49 2 day
405 3 day
37 4 day

Keep in mind for Nov we are seeing a lot of lines with at least
2 of the weeks 3 day trips backed up by another 3 day trip, and a 30 hour layover somewhere. I'm guessing this is because of the holiday schedule.

We use PBS

If you consider the upgrades will be F.O. that have been here 7 years
quick......after hiring maybe picks up....a new hire now may upgrade
in 4-5 years.
Old 10-28-2013 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
There's a lot of pilots on these forums that just like to hate. Any regional pilot bashing another regional pilot for accepting a job is a hypocrite. Just ignore them. Congrats and good luck. All indications look like you've set yourself for fantastic career progression.

Compass and Mesa are the two best regionals out there right now for career progression.
Career progression lol...

Let me know when this career "progresses". Going to a regional with a substandard contract to get a "quick upgrade" and "stepping stone" to a major is a great way to wake up in 15 years at a regional with a bad contract.
Old 10-28-2013 | 05:51 AM
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Thanks for the speedy reply!

So are current CRJ FOs being allowed to bid over to the 175 as FOs, or are you seat locked unless you are upgrading?
Old 10-28-2013 | 06:01 AM
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JK. It's a continuous duty overnight. There's not enough time for a legal overnight, so it's two legs separated by less than 8 hours.

Example: Depart CLT at 2200 Arrive BFE 0000
Depart BFE at 0600 Arrive CLT 0800
Pokey you're quoting the BEST case scenario! Don't forget about the camping trips, two legs before your standup, JA'd when you land in base and are "done", being delayed 3 hours before you ever leave, OR my favorite is doing all of this for 5 days straight!!!
Old 10-28-2013 | 06:02 AM
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I've heard from a guy who heard from someone there in mgt. that CRJ F/Os will be allowed to bid to the E-175.
Old 10-28-2013 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by logic1
Originally Posted by Fecking EJet
Few questions for guys currently at Mesa, if you wouldn't mind?

1) What is the trip mix like? Are there many day trips and two days, or is it all four day trips? Are they generally commutable?

2) Do you use line bidding or PBS? Do most people just get min days off?

3) I keep hearing this predictions for quick upgrades, but do you think they are likely? Are you seeing much attrition?

Thanks in advance!
Using CLT as example for Nov:

34 day trips
49 2 day
405 3 day
37 4 day

Keep in mind for Nov we are seeing a lot of lines with at least
2 of the weeks 3 day trips backed up by another 3 day trip, and a 30 hour layover somewhere. I'm guessing this is because of the holiday schedule.

We use PBS

If you consider the upgrades will be F.O. that have been here 7 years
quick......after hiring maybe picks up....a new hire now may upgrade
in 4-5 years.
You gotta check your math man.40 more airplanes with a current seniority list of roughly 700 does not mean a 4-5 year upgrade.
Old 10-28-2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
Originally Posted by Trip7
There's a lot of pilots on these forums that just like to hate. Any regional pilot bashing another regional pilot for accepting a job is a hypocrite. Just ignore them. Congrats and good luck. All indications look like you've set yourself for fantastic career progression.

Compass and Mesa are the two best regionals out there right now for career progression.
Career progression lol...

Let me know when this career "progresses". Going to a regional with a substandard contract to get a "quick upgrade" and "stepping stone" to a major is a great way to wake up in 15 years at a regional with a bad contract.
Theres a lot of guys hired at JetBlue, Delta, AirTran etc that did exactly that in the mid 2000's. 2-3 years at a regional onto mainline.
Old 10-28-2013 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Theres a lot of guys hired at JetBlue, Delta, AirTran etc that did exactly that in the mid 2000's. 2-3 years at a regional onto mainline.
Exactly. 2 years from now the pilot hired at Mesa will being sitting left seat while the pilot hired at Skywest or XJT will still be sitting reserve FO or barely holding a line. But theyre making that sweet SWEET Chedda with their "reputable" FO pay.

Ask 80ktsClamp how long he spent at the regionals. More importantly, ask him how long he was an FO.

Get in and get out, that's the way to go.
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