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Old 11-28-2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Is offline


I think this is the stupidest post I've ever read. If regionals get too expensive as you put it the flying will have to go back to mainline. The massive regional shift happening right now is only hurting the regionals. No college student in his right mind would sign up for what is happening now.
First off, the superlative of stupid, is most stupid. Not stupidest.

So this is "The most stupid post you've ever read."

Secondly, your trying to tell me it would be cheaper for mainline to take flying back?

A mainline crew has less labor costs than a regional crew for the same aircraft? Righhhht.

I personally know of three college students who are in ground school here right now fresh out of Purdue.

I know of another two who are freshman in an aviation program.

Carry on.
Old 11-28-2014 | 03:10 PM
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Wow, all of you must have ate too much turkey! Turkey's are very angry birds. Next year eat ham...lol!

Peace!!!
Old 11-28-2014 | 03:46 PM
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This thread has gotten some bad seeds in it.
Old 11-28-2014 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ihateIAD
"Awww it was so hard when I went through and it took me forever to upgrade because the industry is unfair. Wahhh." Go to a real airline if you are so **** good you made it thru when it was so tough. Oh that's right, you're stuck and grumpy that life's so unfair. I'm at Mesa for a reason, which I clearly explained. Not at psa or cpz or any other regional. And I'm still coming to work every day on time and enjoy the *** out of flying. The recruiters make no bones about it...they (mgmt) want us in and out to keep costs down. Quit getting butthurt because I call it like it is and am using this company to attain my goal, no different than they are using us for slave wage labor for their goal...to grow and maximize profits. I am here voluntarily knowing it is temporary. Why are you still here? Can't afford first year pay at a major? Right. Next. Oh by the way, I still tell my friends applying to regionals to come to Mesa for the reasons mentioned in a previous post. I just ensure they make the decision with eyes wide open.
LOL you're going to be a joy to fly with when you eventually realize the fast upgrade at Mesa isn't going to happen for you and your class anytime soon.

I'm not sure how the recruiters convinced you your stay here is going to be "temporary" but you're on the very, very tail end of the hiring wave, and with no new flying announced and extremely low attrition compared to other regionals, you might want to reconsider your glorious zero-to-hero 5 year plan.

I wish I knew who you were so I could call my friends & former co-workers at legacies/FDX/Emirates/etc. to make sure your horrible attitude never makes its way into one of their cockpits (I'm sure it won't anyways, given the 'tude you're expressing here at your first 121 job).
Old 11-28-2014 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
LOL you're going to be a joy to fly with when you eventually realize the fast upgrade at Mesa isn't going to happen for you and your class anytime soon.

I'm not sure how the recruiters convinced you your stay here is going to be "temporary" but you're on the very, very tail end of the hiring wave, and with no new flying announced and extremely low attrition compared to other regionals, you might want to reconsider your glorious zero-to-hero 5 year plan.

I wish I knew who you were so prior121 and I could call our friends/former co-workers at SWA, FDX, UAL, & DAL to make sure your horrible attitude never makes its way into one of their cockpits (I'm sure it won't anyways, given the 'tude you're expressing here at your first 121 job).
Don't forget, he's "paid his dues"; so the normal rules don't apply.
Old 11-28-2014 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FerrisBluer
Wow...you guys think IAD blows now??? I remember the A gates, the dungeon. The "old" crew room by the corner Ethiopia and Pakistan. They were still constructing the B concourse. People movers everywhere, no train. Air Wisconsin ground ground handling with a ground handler nearly walking into a colgan prop every day. I remember when the Trans States pilot and the mechanic got in a fist fight at the A gates.

Actually even before that, during the ACA/Independence Air stuff when we had I think the remote "F" gates. Now THAT SUCKED!!!! Those remote gates were like a greyhound bus station in North Central Philly. Oh and back then, no KCM either so you if you timed it just right you'd be able to get behind the 19 person Saudia Crew going through the only employee lane.

Dulles isn't even that expensive, unless you're living as if you are on "single airline captain" wages and staying at hotels while on reserve. Dulles crew rates are high, ground transportation is a nightmare with the Flyer. But overall it is doable and guys b*tchin have no idea what Dulles was. Besides dulles lately has to be extremely temporary for most. Suck it up and bid out.

scuffle mentioned above was caught on film:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewq9NncD_QM
Just to clarify it was a Chataqua pilot that got into it with a mechanic. Not that we haven't had our share of idiots doing embarrassing things.
Old 11-28-2014 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Navmode
Don't forget, he's "paid his dues"; so the normal rules don't apply.
Yeah--he paid his dues playing FlightSim in his mommy's basement.
Old 11-28-2014 | 08:21 PM
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What date would be considered getting in too late at Mesa for a decent upgrade and not much reserve time?
Old 11-28-2014 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaCowboys
What date would be considered getting in too late at Mesa for a decent upgrade and not much reserve time?
What's a decent upgrade to you? If under 1 year, look somewhere else. If under 2, still look somewhere else. If you go in now, you'll be looking at a minimum of 2.5 years if we don't get more planes than what we're getting already.
Old 11-28-2014 | 09:15 PM
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I would consider 2.5 a decent upgrade time for sure. Trying to get Dfw based so out of my options there Mesa seems like the fAstest.
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