That's true for the vast majority of people younger than 30--except for the ones whose parents had enough money to pay for flight training at AllATPs/ERAU in the middle of the worst economic times since the depression, a.k.a. the average Mesa new-hire at this moment in time

I'm not talking about the average person under 30 in the entire US workforce...I'm referring to the average person under 30 working on 1st year FO pay at Mesa right now.

 

If my parents could have afforded my college education or flight training, I would not have turned them down. Who would? I've never understood why people that came from fortunate familys are hated on. I'll admit I'm jealous of people like that. It's not fun to be drowning in loans. But if their family could afford it, good for them.
And how do you come up with this "average?" Do you poll everyone you fly with and ask how they paid for their flight training? If you asked me that I'd tell you it's none of your damn business. That's not my barometer of respect for someone. If they're a terrible pilot, that's when I start judging. But because of how they financed their school? Come on...

 

In my class there weren't a whole lot of people who took on a bunch of flight training loans or went to erau-like schools or had mom and dad pay for it. Wide mix of backgrounds, most involved self financing and hard work building time and ratings from what I could tell when everyone was telling their story. Funny thing is I've flown with several 250 hour allATP wonder captains at Mesa, who had it pretty damn easy compared to the guys who need 1500 hrs now. Only difference is those 250 hour wonders from the 90s/early 2000s are still stuck at Mesa, and thus bitter about the "millenials," knowing the newhires of today with a 4 year degree will likely not be at Mesa in 5 years while they've had to wait for a decade or more in the regionals. Oh and half my class was 30 or over, many prior 121/135, and/or have been slaving away building time or in another career for the last 10-25 years. Hardly the stereotypical entitled millenial newhire you speak of.
And the millenials were hard workers who haven't exactly been handed the job at Mesa on a silver platter.

Newhires want fast upgrades? Crazy, that's the only reason people have had to come to mesa other than maybe they live in phx and don't want to commute. Are thy entitled? No, they just want to keep their aviation career going. From my experience the guys who have been stuck at Mesa have worse attitudes about this profession and life in general than the average newhire. A young entitled millenial wants to quit for greener pastures and quicker upgrade bc the music stopped at Mesa? Cool, let him. Give JO a reason to improve things.

I think flaps will only be happy if the average newhire was 24, with debt, and had the attitude that they want to be in the regionals for 10-15 more years, have a 5-7 year upgrade, all because they don't deserve to get to the majors before they are 35 or 40 because its unfair how luck and timing worked out.

 

Why you all playa hating on flaps? Guy probaly has more experience than the last 15 new hire classes combined.

 

Not "playa hatin" but rather countering his unfounded hate on newhires.

 

Hey guys, How the flight attendants look like in Mesa ? Are they young and pretty ?

 

Next question please...


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Lol leave the flight attendants alone

 

Reserve grid for IAD FO sucks for February