Originally Posted by CBreezy

I don't care if you don't like what I have to say. I'm not out here attacking people who work for Mesa or trying to deprive them of their way of life. I have friends who fly for Mesa. There is no ill-will toward them. If you take what I have to say as a personal attack, then you ARE lacking reading comprehension skills.

I am well aware of the plight of Mesa. I know they have struggled with their upper management and gone through some turbulent times. If the pilots of Mesa TRULY wanted to improve their conditions, they would do far less cheerleading about how great Mesa is. That's all I ever point out. They have more negotiating capital right now than they've ever have. They don't need to slander or to picket the front door. It would be nice for some of the people who actually work at Mesa on this board to call out the people who claim that Mesa is a great place to work.

As far as your point regarding the difference between the best and the worst conditions, I disagree. While compared to a major airline contract, $9-12 an hour is nothing, there are MAJOR differences between a place like Mesa, a place like TSA, and a place like Air Wisconsin. I don't have time to run the numbers, but in compensation alone, you're looking at a possible disparity of up to $7-$12k a year. When you're only making $20-$30k, that is a statistically significant number. When you take into considering health care, disability, scheduling, retirement, and possible other soft pays, that disparity grows much much larger.

While there are growth opporunities and thus upgrade opportunities at a place like Mesa, people still need to prepare to be at a place for a minimum of 4-6 years before they get the opportunity to move to a major airline. There are outliers but I'd bet the average stay at a regional in the next 5 years will not get as low as 8 years.

Finally, with regard to unions. I know this is a hot topic. I think there are both positives and negatives to union membership in the current political enviroment. Union membership under the RLA and representation by the same organization as the people we subcontract for makes union membership almost as worthwhile as not having one at all.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

Plugging your ears and singing "la la la" is ignorant. I'm not trolling. I'm countering your arguments with real facts and points. If that's trolling then someone please call the NY Times editorials and ask them to stop trolling.

Originally Posted by Duct Mon

I'm with you on this but sometimes it's hard to ignore their moronic views of Mesa. Although some of their rhetoric can be fact based it has no place on the Mesa thread and never solves any of our pilot group problems.

Originally Posted by Cyborgmudhen

While I am quite certain your spew does not rise to the level of NYT reporting, I'll ask you to exercise the reading comprehension skills you are so keen to boast of.

I merely pointed out a causal relationship between the noise created by your obvious fixation with an airline you don't even work for and the marked lack of useful info on this thread. As hard as it may be for you to believe, folks do come onto here looking more than your latest display of expository brilliance. I am not the only one who realizes this. I was reminding those folks that your noise is only noise if they let it be.

You are dismissed.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

I'm good. I'll continue to post on this public forum and share my opinions. If you don't like it, start your own message board and don't let me join.

Carry on.

Originally Posted by Facebitten

TL;DR.


and this means what exactly?

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Very relevant. As it happens, all the modern browsers stopped supporting SSLv3 this month due to it having flaws. Safari and Internet Explorer still allow it, Chrome and Firefox do not. Mesa needs to fix this pronto.

Originally Posted by prior121

Mesa is buying their own 175 sim.

We do not own a CRJ sim and we have over 80 CRJs.

Take that for what it's worth.....