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Old 02-04-2015 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Darant
Pretty exciting news! The quick upgrades will continue it looks like
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Old 02-04-2015 | 12:08 PM
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Congrats my Mesa people!
Old 02-04-2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NineGturn
I would disagree that his statement is a reach. It may not be the primary profit arm but the fact is Mesa's new airplanes are owned by United and the jobs are outsourced to increase profitability. The only reason the regional airline model exists in the US is due to the unions. An Embraer is not a regional jet but it is being operated by regional airlines at the same pay scales that were paid out to 19 seat turboprop pilots twenty years ago.
Never said they weren't profitable, it was the undertone of his statement I disagree with. Fact is Mesa is a contractor to fly UA code as provided in the UPA. Just like XJT, SKW, etc. If they want profit sharing then negotiate it with Mesa management. However, it is not ALPA's job to ensure that contractors to someone's code receive profit sharing directly from that code, or any other incentives/bonuses/etc (the undertone I speak of). That's the thing with CPA's....here's the jets, here's some operating money, and if you suck we'll find someone else, good luck!

I do agree that the Ejet is not a regional airliner, heck they fly it on 3+ hour legs like YYZ, YYC, YEG, BDL, and more. The airplane really belongs at mainline, but that ship sailed long ago. If anything, should management choose the E190/195 as the 100 seater of choice for UAL then I certainly see the possibility of a closing of the gap.

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Old 02-04-2015 | 02:28 PM
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Congratulations to Mesa and I wish the best for all of us guys for quick upgrades !
Old 02-04-2015 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cherokee micro

Congratulations to Mesa and I wish the best for all of us guys for quick upgrades !
Dude just shut up.

And you wonder why people like facebiter hate on us Mesa people.

Be lucky that you're only going to be a regional FO for 12 months.

But, g*ddamn, show some humility. Some of us who have been regional FO's for 3, 4, 5+ years.
Old 02-04-2015 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Dude just shut up.

And you wonder why people like facebiter hate on us Mesa people.

Be lucky that you're only going to be a regional FO for 12 months.

But, g*ddamn, show some humility. Some of us who have been regional FO's for 3, 4, 5+ years.

ok buddy, i am sorry, I just wanted to make a wish because I felt really happy when i saw the announcement. (I am really excited and happy today to be honest.)
Old 02-04-2015 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cherokee micro
ok buddy, i am sorry, I just wanted to make a wish because I felt really happy when i saw the announcement. (I am really excited and happy today to be honest.)
As am I...

If we get those other 30 options then its gonna be ridiculous!
Old 02-04-2015 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cherokee micro
ok buddy, i am sorry, I just wanted to make a wish because I felt really happy when i saw the announcement. (I am really excited and happy today to be honest.)
It's not a wish, it's a fact. But yeah I have to agree with prior121, let's not go touting this on an internet forum.
Old 02-04-2015 | 05:20 PM
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If one has the choice between the crj and ejet what should they choose?
Old 02-04-2015 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Darant
As am I...

If we get those other 30 options then its gonna be ridiculous!
I am perfectly happy with 7 airplanes here, 6 there, 2 here... I do not want any kind of announcement like we are getting 30+ new jets. Slow steady growth is best.
Besides, your biggest concern about a fast upgrade is that we are able to fill classes, and hire about 400 to 500 people behind you, so you CAN upgrade. Take the total number of pilots at mesa, divide by 2. If your seniority number is around 50 to 60% of that, or you can project it to be there, then you will have a nice quick upgrade. If your hanging around 800's, 700's, you got some time to wait.
Besides, its really in your best interest to learn as much as you possible can right now. Read the CFM from cover to cover, know the GOM, do a few cabin announcements, write up a few MEL's, try to learn as much as you can about being a captain. It's not just about learning to steer the airplane on the ground with the tiller, it's about having the captain attitude, and being able to set the tone and be the decision maker while your doing IOE. You need to demonstrate it. I guarantee you, if this is your first 121 operation, and you upgrade with 1000 hours total 121 time, your going to say to yourself, "What the hell did I get myself into?" It will hit you like a ton of bricks. Either you will grow some chest hair or you may find yourself wishing to be an FO again.
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