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02-12-2015, 03:24 PM

#5941

TheFly

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Originally Posted by word302

So we just continue to let the bottom feeders set the bar? Sad.

^this. Right. Here.

02-12-2015, 03:27 PM

#5942

FerrisBluer

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Years ago you'd never even find a Skywest guy on these forums, now they're everywhere and seeming to camp out on the mesa forums. What Gives?

02-12-2015, 03:37 PM

#5943

ScottyDo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FerrisBluer

Years ago you'd never even find a Skywest guy on these forums, now they're everywhere and seeming to camp out on the mesa forums. What Gives?

They are just jelly is all.

02-12-2015, 03:49 PM

#5944

Paid2fly

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Originally Posted by 24/48

Ideally you're right. Sadly we don't live in a world of ideals. Majors are hiring a ton for the foreseeable future due to attrition, and new aircraft. I would argue that getting on at a major is the goal of most who apply at a regional right now. Mainline managements know this and will continue to put out bottom of the barrel CPA's for bid, playing the field if you will. With out those CPA's regionals cease to exist, and when one drops there is another one to pick up the slack (ACA and CMR come to mind, a whole bunch of regionals feasted on those carcasses). So what we're down to is this: No regional is desirable long-term whether it's pay, work rules, QOL....they ALL suck in one way or another, but they are a means to a goal. I'm all for regional pilots trying to improve things, but I'm afraid the new standard is what you see at PSA and ENY.

It sure wouldn't hurt if you and others stopped cheerleading for the bottom feeders.

02-12-2015, 03:51 PM

#5945

prior121

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyDo

They are just jelly is all.

Yep. Pretty obvious there.

02-12-2015, 04:10 PM

#5946

word302

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prior121

Yep. Pretty obvious there.

Jealous of being paid $59 an hour to be the PIC of a 76 seat jet? Surely you jest. "But I'm loggin PIC time dog". Lol

02-12-2015, 04:21 PM

#5947

24/48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by word302

If I made 50 or 60k I might be able to stomach the loss but at 30k, not so much. I am not even harping so much on pay rates, but add in healthcare, retirement, cancellation pay, sick/vacation time.....the list goes on. I'm glad that you can support your wife on your legacy salary, but I have a family to feed.

And you're describing ALL regional airlines in some fashion in which Mesa is a small part of. And yes they are at the bottom because of the bankruptcy contract they currently operate under. My comments were based on the "self-respect" comment by another, in which you replied with the "horrid contract" comment. I would argue that ALL regional contracts are horrid in one shape or another.

I can certainly appreciate the position that you are in which is the exact reason why my family made the decisions we made at the times that we made them.

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Originally Posted by word302

So we just continue to let the bottom feeders set the bar? Sad.

Not what I said at all. In fact, the newly elected ALPA President stated in his first blast mail that regional wages, etc were a top priority. Given the fact that he was just elected and not currently seeking election, I would take him at his word, for now at least. What all that entails I haven't the slightest. I do know that regionals are struggling to fill classes which ultimately leads to product degradation, and customer dissatisfaction. UAL is already attempting to address this by reducing it's UAL footprint while increasing it's mainline presence. This creates more mainline positions, and paves the way for us to possibly help improve the outlook for regional pilots.

02-12-2015, 04:23 PM

#5948

24/48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFly

^this. Right. Here.

Skywest hasn't set any bar, they've just been happy to accept the fruits of those trying to set the bar. All in solidarity, right?

02-12-2015, 04:27 PM

#5949

24/48

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Originally Posted by FaceBiter

Don't talk about 24/48's union brothers and sisters like that.

Unless you're one to strive for mediocrity....I'm betting you would love to have the opportunity to be a fellow union member at a major, you know since all the majors are unionized.

02-12-2015, 04:34 PM

#5950

24/48

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Originally Posted by Paid2fly

It sure wouldn't hurt if you and others stopped cheerleading for the bottom feeders.

Enlighten me as to how I'm cheerleading for the bottom feeders. The way I look at it you guys, every single regional pilot, is a bottom feeder. But I didn't get a vote back in the day when this mess was created, and yes I've thanked some of those retiring pilots who boast about their wealth at the expense of scope. Fact is, regionals are here. It also happens to be the path I took to get on with a major. It is what it is.