CBreezy

I did 12 months at $25 an hour and 8 months at $35 an hour all while crediting no less than 90 and upwards of 120 hours a month. As a Captain, it's $67 all to fly a 50-seater.

24/48

Can you point me to a regional that has a good contract? Is it worth going to a regional that pays a few dollars an hour more only to have to commute?

word302

The point is things will not change unless applicants quit coming through the door. You and I both know we're talking about more than a few dollars an hour.

Jowersman

It's what you make it. This forum is for discussion, not harassment and degrading other peoples' companies. Mesa isn't good pay or benefits, but I make it work for me. I live in base on reserve and spend a lot of time with my wife (which was the goal - was tired of commuting). I've only flown 1 leg in 22 days, so senior reserve life is good for those interested. I admire all of us for putting up with pay cuts, transfers and downgrades through the years (been through all 3). Let's just stick together for the greater goal of working hard and getting to the mainline level and it'll pay off. Thanks for listening.

ScottyDo

Exactly, and having no 50 seaters to contend with (except for one) and get rid of when the music stops on those puts us in a good spot. Places like Air Whisky can talk about how well they are paid in comparison to others as well as the contract and what not. However living in base and being at a company that will be around for the foreseeable future was worth taking a few less dollars an hour.

Facebitten

Any opportunities to drop trips and get extra flying at premium pay?


Isn't premium pay few and far between? Has anybody ever flow premium pay trips?

24/48

Ideally you're right. Sadly we don't live in a world of ideals. Majors are hiring a ton for the foreseeable future due to attrition, and new aircraft. I would argue that getting on at a major is the goal of most who apply at a regional right now. Mainline managements know this and will continue to put out bottom of the barrel CPA's for bid, playing the field if you will. With out those CPA's regionals cease to exist, and when one drops there is another one to pick up the slack (ACA and CMR come to mind, a whole bunch of regionals feasted on those carcasses). So what we're down to is this: No regional is desirable long-term whether it's pay, work rules, QOL....they ALL suck in one way or another, but they are a means to a goal. I'm all for regional pilots trying to improve things, but I'm afraid the new standard is what you see at PSA and ENY.

24/48

Well said! Imagine this.....2nd year you go to $29/hr, which is about $10/hr below the highest paying regionals. An 85 hour line would yield you $850 less in gross income per month, however, you live in base so you're not spending money on a crash pad or hotels, eating at home more than at the airport, not wasting time and energy commuting. Is that $850 really worth all that?

word302

If I made 50 or 60k I might be able to stomach the loss but at 30k, not so much. I am not even harping so much on pay rates, but add in healthcare, retirement, cancellation pay, sick/vacation time.....the list goes on. I'm glad that you can support your wife on your legacy salary, but I have a family to feed.

word302

So we just continue to let the bottom feeders set the bar? Sad.