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01-30-2015 | 10:56 AM
#5931
sippin' dat koolaid
Joined: Jun 2013
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From: gear slinger
You won't need to worry about upgrade time IMO. You just need recency and you will likely be working at a major before you would upgrade anywhere. I would say once you get a couple hundred hours of 121 you will get hired by a major if your apps are updated. But, if upgrade time is really what you are after, psa/TSA are probably the best options. Mesa could announce a bunch of new flying and it will be the place to go. It's a crapshoot, gambling on a bunch of crap companies. Skywest has typically been the golden boy, but my friends over there say things are getting pretty bad there.
I would recommend going to a regional that has a base where you live or could easily commute. Mesa, despite all the bashing and infantile people who post on this board, generally has a good pilot group, and I havent been messed with too much by the company. Minus the pay, I am happy here. So if phx, IAH, dfw, or iad work for you, it's not a bad place to be. I'm still working to get a couple friends over here.
I would recommend going to a regional that has a base where you live or could easily commute. Mesa, despite all the bashing and infantile people who post on this board, generally has a good pilot group, and I havent been messed with too much by the company. Minus the pay, I am happy here. So if phx, IAH, dfw, or iad work for you, it's not a bad place to be. I'm still working to get a couple friends over here.
01-30-2015 | 12:56 PM
#5932
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Joined: Jun 2013
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Let me also add that, resident experts like FaceBiter and a couple other winners on this board will tell you that until you spend several winters in the northeast flying turboprops with steam gauges in low IFR, deicing every leg, you are not seasoned enough to be in the left seat in 121 ops, and God forbid at a major. Fortunately most of the captains at Mesa aren't as bad as the loud ones on this board (and the annoying skywest career FO...FB). I've only flown with a couple wackjobs here. So don't let that sway your opinion. Get in (anywhere), get recency, and bounce.
Also, do you have ATP or at least the written done?
Also, do you have ATP or at least the written done?
How long have you been on the line? 10 minutes? ELOHEL.
01-30-2015 | 04:01 PM
#5933
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Joined: Jun 2007
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Military trained pilot brah. Much different than the ATP Flight School 90-day wonder who has never flown anything but a Seminole/Cessna/TwinStar outside of the 141 environment and is borderline dangerous without an autopilot and flat out lethal without the flight director.
How long have you been on the line? 10 minutes? ELOHEL.
How long have you been on the line? 10 minutes? ELOHEL.
01-30-2015 | 04:35 PM
#5934
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Joined: Jun 2007
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Give it a rest bud. You're embarrassing yourself. There are programs out there to help people with addictions and obsessions like you. What do you do? Where do you work? Did you wash out of Mesa? It sure appears that way.
Look. This is the regionals. Whether you like it or not, this is an entry level job with the only constraint being flight time. Newsflash: you will get crappy pilots from time to time. Ripping on dudes for not being able to fly visuals? Please. That happens at mainline. I've rode on plenty of jumpseats where I became moderately concerned at times because the 63 year old captain had to hand fly when the automation crapped out. Or they try to fly the visual with the automation and completely botch everything. You have a complex with Mesa. Just admit it. Bad pilots are found at EVERY airline; major, regional, legacy, international, military, whatever. I'd like to say to you, "you were once a new hire too," but honestly I don't know if you ever have been...
If some dude who's well connected can get hired at United with 2500 total, and some FO time on an ERJ, so be it. Good for him or her, and frankly, I hope a lot of us will be that fortunate. We're headed that direction. Get used to it. Stop acting like some grizzly old captain who's been flying DC-6's with an ADF since the 1950's. You come off as a complete jerk, and frankly, I'm happy that personalities like yours are weeded out at the major and legacy level.
Look. This is the regionals. Whether you like it or not, this is an entry level job with the only constraint being flight time. Newsflash: you will get crappy pilots from time to time. Ripping on dudes for not being able to fly visuals? Please. That happens at mainline. I've rode on plenty of jumpseats where I became moderately concerned at times because the 63 year old captain had to hand fly when the automation crapped out. Or they try to fly the visual with the automation and completely botch everything. You have a complex with Mesa. Just admit it. Bad pilots are found at EVERY airline; major, regional, legacy, international, military, whatever. I'd like to say to you, "you were once a new hire too," but honestly I don't know if you ever have been...
If some dude who's well connected can get hired at United with 2500 total, and some FO time on an ERJ, so be it. Good for him or her, and frankly, I hope a lot of us will be that fortunate. We're headed that direction. Get used to it. Stop acting like some grizzly old captain who's been flying DC-6's with an ADF since the 1950's. You come off as a complete jerk, and frankly, I'm happy that personalities like yours are weeded out at the major and legacy level.
01-30-2015 | 04:40 PM
#5935
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2014
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From: Retired Marine
ATP done back in April. I don't have a lot of time in the NE USA ice. I do have a little ice time in other places in the world but not much. I have a lot of sand & night time though. I hope your right on bouncing to a major quickly and thanks for the candid reply. I would rather hear a no BS answer than a sugar coated response.
01-30-2015 | 04:42 PM
#5936
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Joined: Jun 2013
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Give it a rest bud. You're embarrassing yourself. There are programs out there to help people with addictions and obsessions like you. What do you do? Where do you work? Did you wash out of Mesa? It sure appears that way.
Look. This is the regionals. Whether you like it or not, this is an entry level job with the only constraint being flight time. Newsflash: you will get crappy pilots from time to time. Ripping on dudes for not being able to fly visuals? Please. That happens at mainline. I've rode on plenty of jumpseats where I became moderately concerned at times because the 63 year old captain had to hand fly when the automation crapped out. Or they try to fly the visual with the automation and completely botch everything. You have a complex with Mesa. Just admit it. Bad pilots are found at EVERY airline; major, regional, legacy, international, military, whatever. I'd like to say to you, "you were once a new hire too," but honestly I don't know if you ever have been...
If some dude who's well connected can get hired at United with 2500 total, and some FO time on an ERJ, so be it. Good for him or her, and frankly, I hope a lot of us will be that fortunate. We're headed that direction. Get used to it. Stop acting like some grizzly old captain who's been flying DC-6's with an ADF since the 1950's. You come off as a complete jerk, and frankly, I'm happy that personalities like yours are weeded out at the major and legacy level.
Look. This is the regionals. Whether you like it or not, this is an entry level job with the only constraint being flight time. Newsflash: you will get crappy pilots from time to time. Ripping on dudes for not being able to fly visuals? Please. That happens at mainline. I've rode on plenty of jumpseats where I became moderately concerned at times because the 63 year old captain had to hand fly when the automation crapped out. Or they try to fly the visual with the automation and completely botch everything. You have a complex with Mesa. Just admit it. Bad pilots are found at EVERY airline; major, regional, legacy, international, military, whatever. I'd like to say to you, "you were once a new hire too," but honestly I don't know if you ever have been...
If some dude who's well connected can get hired at United with 2500 total, and some FO time on an ERJ, so be it. Good for him or her, and frankly, I hope a lot of us will be that fortunate. We're headed that direction. Get used to it. Stop acting like some grizzly old captain who's been flying DC-6's with an ADF since the 1950's. You come off as a complete jerk, and frankly, I'm happy that personalities like yours are weeded out at the major and legacy level.
01-30-2015 | 05:46 PM
#5937
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Joined: Dec 2014
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From: Retired Marine
Thanks for the gouge fellas.
01-30-2015 | 05:48 PM
#5938
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,539
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From: 175 Left
too long... didn't read....
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01-30-2015 | 06:10 PM
#5939
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Joined: Dec 2014
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ATP done back in April. I don't have a lot of time in the NE USA ice. I do have a little ice time in other places in the world but not much. I have a lot of sand & night time though. I hope your right on bouncing to a major quickly and thanks for the candid reply. I would rather hear a no BS answer than a sugar coated response.
01-30-2015 | 07:15 PM
#5940
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Joined: Jun 2013
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I'm seriously ELOHEL'ing. You have no idea.
Here's the sad part....God forbid something terrible happens when some unqualified dork gets in over his head we will ALL pay (regardless of who you work for) via more bad "feel good" legislation.
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