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Old 02-12-2015 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
Skywest hasn't set any bar, they've just been happy to accept the fruits of those trying to set the bar. All in solidarity, right?
At least they are eating fruit and not the rotten stuff JO is feeding you guys.
Old 02-12-2015 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
At least they are eating fruit and not the rotten stuff JO is feeding you guys.
What rotten stuff?

You guys with the daily bashing of my company on here is starting to sound downright psychotic.
Old 02-12-2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
What rotten stuff?

You guys with the daily bashing of my company on here is starting to sound downright psychotic.
I'd hate to see the path some of these guys have taken that leads to the posting of daily vitriol in another company's thread, supposedly leading to some sort of self gratification for them. Straight up sad and pathetic IMO.

I know, I know...."what's pathetic is working at Mesa and I'm awesome because I work at xyz regional that has a real interview and 7 year upgrade." You go get 'em champ!
Old 02-12-2015 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
What rotten stuff?

You guys with the daily bashing of my company on here is starting to sound downright psychotic.
I'm sorry you are unable to comprehend simple analogies in a point/counter-point discussion. This is going to come across as patronizing but is clearly the only way you can understand.

Point: Skywest hasn't set any bar and is happy enjoying the fruits of others.

Analysis: Here 24 is drawing a conclusion that the contract at Skywest (non-union) only exists in its current form due to the diligent efforts of unionized pilot groups, like Mesa. I'm making an assumption that this poorly veiled insult is disguised as "without Mesa's union and others like Mesa, Skywest would be in far worse condition."

Counter-point: Skywest is eating fruit. Mesa is eating rotten...something.

Analysis: Keeping with the theme of fruit, I chose to make a contract comparison between the unionized Mesa with non-unionized Skywest. Skywest's contract is superior to Mesa's in almost every single way even though they don't have a proper union. Mesa's contract is one of the worst in the industry across the board with the exception of line-guarantee. I purposely left it open-ended so that one could draw the conclusion that it is silly to say that the unionized group of Mesa and their "efforts" to raise the bar has lead to Skywest's far superior contract.
Old 02-12-2015 | 09:56 PM
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Mesa is buying their own 175 sim.

We do not own a CRJ sim and we have over 80 CRJs.

Take that for what it's worth.....
Old 02-12-2015 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm sorry you are unable to comprehend simple analogies in a point/counter-point discussion. This is going to come across as patronizing but is clearly the only way you can understand.

Point: Skywest hasn't set any bar and is happy enjoying the fruits of others.

Analysis: Here 24 is drawing a conclusion that the contract at Skywest (non-union) only exists in its current form due to the diligent efforts of unionized pilot groups, like Mesa. I'm making an assumption that this poorly veiled insult is disguised as "without Mesa's union and others like Mesa, Skywest would be in far worse condition."

Counter-point: Skywest is eating fruit. Mesa is eating rotten...something.

Analysis: Keeping with the theme of fruit, I chose to make a contract comparison between the unionized Mesa with non-unionized Skywest. Skywest's contract is superior to Mesa's in almost every single way even though they don't have a proper union. Mesa's contract is one of the worst in the industry across the board with the exception of line-guarantee. I purposely left it open-ended so that one could draw the conclusion that it is silly to say that the unionized group of Mesa and their "efforts" to raise the bar has lead to Skywest's far superior contract.
Let me get this straight. You are comparing a Skywest contract to a Mesa contract? This is like trying to compare an ugly chick to a very ugly chick. However you wanna justify this, you're still f-ing an ugly chick. Now get off the Mesa thread and go somewhere else to troll.
Old 02-12-2015 | 10:29 PM
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I know, I know...."what's pathetic is working at Mesa and I'm awesome because I work at xyz regional that has a real interview and 7 year upgrade." You go get 'em champ!

LOL. I try to tell people i "interviewed" with Mesa but they don't believe me.
Old 02-12-2015 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Mesa is buying their own 175 sim.

We do not own a CRJ sim and we have over 80 CRJs.

Take that for what it's worth.....

Who owns the one in PHX?
Old 02-12-2015 | 11:08 PM
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I think it's CAE.
Old 02-12-2015 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
The only fingers I've pointed were at some Skywest pilots who like to talk about how crappy certain regionals, like Mesa, are compared to the rest of the industry. When in reality Skywest really hasn't done anything to better the industry. Quite the opposite as they've enhanced managements whipsaw at Inc. Furthermore, to come on here and preach about how awesome they are when everything in their unenforceable handbook was given to them after it was negotiated by others, is just insulting.






Your statements above are the cheerleading of bottom feeders being referred to.


If you weren't so completely biased, you'd realize/admit that Skywest, Air Whisky, Horizon, and ASA/Expressjet have always been far better places of employment than your wife's employer. The pay, benefits, work rules and treatment of employees at J.O.s outfit have always lagged the above, even prior to the bankruptcy you use for an excuse.
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