New Mesa Thread
#951
Maybe I am wrong, we shall see. But I'm just going off of the impression I get from flying with a lot of the lifer CAs in PHX. They are nice guys, but most of them are "company men" just like that guy in the video who has been here since 1983 and doesn't plan on leaving. They don't want to rock the boat because with that kind of longevity and years remaining to retirement, they are better off sticking it out here until the end and taking whatever they can get in the process.
Also I've been accused of having a bad attitude by some of these guys because I think we should get paid more and see things like min day pay and better work rules spelled out in our contract. I always get the same "you should just be happy to be here flying a large regional jet" type response. Now I could be wrong but I feel that most of these types will be voting yes.
Also I've been accused of having a bad attitude by some of these guys because I think we should get paid more and see things like min day pay and better work rules spelled out in our contract. I always get the same "you should just be happy to be here flying a large regional jet" type response. Now I could be wrong but I feel that most of these types will be voting yes.
Don't worry you aren't alone. I'm here in IAH getting the same reputation. I came from another airline and I would rather see this place go away than sell out.
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#952
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2011
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Sometimes it is difficult to get an accurate pulse of how an airlines pilot group is feeling these days. What grade would be an honest appraisal of the Mesa pilot group as a whole? B? D?
In the past year it seems a bit manic on the forums.
Thanks for your honest appraisal.
In the past year it seems a bit manic on the forums.
Thanks for your honest appraisal.
#953
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From: ERJ CA
It's a "no" from most I've talked to. The only "yes's" have come from people heavily involved with the union (shocker).
#954
Covfefe
Joined: Jun 2015
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Sometimes it is difficult to get an accurate pulse of how an airlines pilot group is feeling these days. What grade would be an honest appraisal of the Mesa pilot group as a whole? B? D?
In the past year it seems a bit manic on the forums.
Thanks for your honest appraisal.
In the past year it seems a bit manic on the forums.
Thanks for your honest appraisal.
#955
I'm a CA in IAH and I don't know of anyone who finds this TA as anything short of laughable, let alone even considering a Yes vote.
#956
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Comments under the MAG Facebook aren't too pretty either.
#957
Covfefe
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Didn't know there was a Facebook page until this. Pretty funny after looking at the comments and responses. I still like the question about what Mesa will do when FO attrition picks up. The standard answer from the company and MAGALPA is that Mesa will have to get creative to attract newhires.
When I'm evaluating a stock to buy or hold, I don't hope the company "gets creative" to overcome an imminent obstacle, especially one that can cause chaos and potential catastrophe within the company. I look for an actual plan and leaders who I trust to execute that plan. Getting creative isn't a method or a real plan. What the company and union are saying is that there is no plan. That is scary, especially if we lock ourselves into a 5 year contract that surely won't help attract or keep pilots.
When I'm evaluating a stock to buy or hold, I don't hope the company "gets creative" to overcome an imminent obstacle, especially one that can cause chaos and potential catastrophe within the company. I look for an actual plan and leaders who I trust to execute that plan. Getting creative isn't a method or a real plan. What the company and union are saying is that there is no plan. That is scary, especially if we lock ourselves into a 5 year contract that surely won't help attract or keep pilots.
#958
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2012
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With 20+ new F/Os is PHX base getting more lines in October?
#959
Covfefe
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12 Phx FO upgrades and several FOs moving from phx to DFW. Net change will put us around 90 or so FOs by my quick math eyeballing that award, which is about what the captains are at. But, the SKW 900s are going away at some point soon so I'm hoping we get a slight uptick in October getting some of our old trips back.
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